Yahoo: The Internet is Under New Mangement ‘Ours’

Posted on October 21, 2009, 8:46 am, by Thomas Hawk, under Censorship, Flickr, Yahoo.

The Internet is Under New Management Ours

Yesterday the Yahoo! executive who reportedly oversaw Flickr , Scott Dietzen, resigned from Yahoo! according to TechCrunch. It was also reported yesterday that Yahoo has now retained Goodby, Silverstein and Partners to somehow try and recover from their failing marketing campaign.

While Yahoo censors paintings of classical nudes from public museums, their employees are off getting public lap dances at Yahoo “Hack Day.”

How can Yahoo seriously expect us to accept their $100 million marketing big lie that "the internet is under new management, yours," when they carelessly and maliciously destroy customer data without so much as a warning?

Yahoo’s new $100 million marketing campaign should not read "the internet is under new management yours." It should read "the internet is under new management ours."

Until Yahoo learns to respect their users and their user data and embraces true community management rather than community mis-management, their outlandish marketing message will continue to fall on deaf ears.

Here is an open letter I wrote to the head of Yahoo’s Marketing efforts, Elisa Steele, regarding these problems.

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  • October 21, 2009 at 4:52 pm Thomas Hawk
    Yesterday the Yahoo! executive who reportedly oversaw Flickr resigned from Yahoo! according to TechCrunch. It was also reported yesterday that Yahoo has now retained Goodby, Silverstein and Partners to somehow try and recover from their failing marketing campaign. While Yahoo censors paintings of classical nudes from public museums, their employees are off getting public lap dances at Yahoo “Hack Day.” How can Yahoo seriously expect us to accept their $100 million marketing big lie that "the internet is under new management, yours," when they carelessly and maliciously destroy customer data without so much as a warning? Yahoo’s new $100 million marketing campaign should not read "the internet is under new management yours." It should read "the internet is under new management ours."
  • October 21, 2009 at 5:09 pm Mike Hellers
    Nice post Thomas. Although I do not necessarily agree with all of the recent negativity about Yahoo! in the recent weeks, I do agree with a lot of the issues, especially the deletion of accounts etc.. It is good to see that there seems to be some hope that they turn it around for the better again. We shall see...
  • October 21, 2009 at 5:12 pm Thomas Hawk
    I don't think all Yahoo is bad Mike, I'm probably still smarting over the fact that they nuked the one group on Flickr where I was super active, DMU (which has now moved to friendfeed), and that they refuse to consider reforming their practice of nuking groups and user accounts without warning or allowing photographers to self correct what they see as TOS/CG problems. Destroying a group of over 3,000 with over 5,000 threads, without warning, was uncalled for. As was Heather Champ's crowing about "I hate your freedom" while they did it. I'm unlikely to get over that anytime soon I'm afraid. Yahoo needs to seriously examine their content deletion problems on Flickr and not simply dismiss their users whose data is destroyed.
  • October 21, 2009 at 5:15 pm Andrew Smith
    Wonder if the outage yesterday had anything to do with him leaving?
  • October 21, 2009 at 5:35 pm Kenton
    Are you able to comment on what's up at Zooomr Thomas? At this point I don't intend to renew my Flickr Pro account and Zooomr was on my list however there doesn't seem to be much development going on there anymore.
  • October 21, 2009 at 5:38 pm Thomas Hawk
    Kenton, I'm not sure what Kristopher is doing at Zooomr right now. He'd be better positioned to answer any questions about development there than I would at present.
  • October 21, 2009 at 5:40 pm Kenton
    Thanks Thomas I wasn't sure if you were still involved much there or not.
  • October 21, 2009 at 7:38 pm Celine Chamberlin
    Kenton, there is a new version of Zooomr in development (it was being translated to English from Japanese last I heard) called Zest, but I don't know when it will be released. I think he intends to send it to beta first.
  • October 21, 2009 at 8:44 pm Kenton
    I noticed that Celine. Just wasn't sure if it was the "next" Zooomr or an additional product. Thanks for the info.

9 Comments

  1. James Rhodes says:
    October 21, 2009 at 9:24 am

    Give it up man, this is just fucking pathetic. If you hate Yahoo / Flickr so much. Just leave, its that simple. This pseudo crusade of your is nothing but a cry for someone to pay attention to you. Nobody fucking cares ! Can’t you see that, they only people supporting you are your circle of cheerleaders, who think they have some right to demand things from a corporation and or website. Are you people delusional or something ? Get over it !

    You know what you did to get your group deleted, you are at fault Andrew / Thomas, not Flickr or Yahoo, YOU Andrew Peterson YOU. Crying about it like a baby isn’t going to change anything, and you certainly are affecting Flickr’s business at all. If you don’t like the way a company treats you then move on. These cries for attention to the wrongs you have suffered are just plain pathetic. You broke the TOS, you’ve been breaking the TOS for some time now. What did you really expect to happen ?

  2. James Rhodes says:
    October 21, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Are you so arrogant to think that Heather’s tweet is really about you ? FACT : The world does not revolve around you Thomas / Andrew. Suggesting that Heather’s tweet is about you or your little group, just reveals what an ego maniac you actually are. Get over yourself, talk about something interesting on this blog for once in your life.

  3. Pye says:
    October 21, 2009 at 9:35 am

    If he isn’t talking about anything interesting to you, why are you here?

  4. James Rhodes says:
    October 21, 2009 at 9:50 am

    Ah someone else who doesn’t read your blog Thomas…. The question is why are you here ? Don’t you have better things to do with your time Pye ?

  5. Derek says:
    October 21, 2009 at 10:00 am

    Oh boo hoo.

  6. Ryan says:
    October 21, 2009 at 2:09 pm

    you know those people that stand outside douchey clubs hoping to be let in?

  7. Shepherd Johnson says:
    October 26, 2009 at 9:06 am

    Both comments state that the internet will be under Yahoo!’s management. ‘Ours’ referring to Yahoo! and then they coyly add the “Y” which is Yahoo!’s logo making us make the association that they mean “Yours” which they clearly don’t mean. Pretty presumptive of Yahoo! who’s services really do suck to make such a statement. I hope the company goes under entirely.

  8. Shepherd Johnson says:
    October 26, 2009 at 9:07 am

    @ James Heather posts things about Flickr members. I’m a testament to that.

  9. Shepherd Johnson says:
    October 26, 2009 at 9:11 am

    @James, you sir, are an idiot, sir. You are absolutely wrong. Thomas has done a great deal to affect Yahoo! business practices. Yahoo! is going to be taking a big dive financially when more and more people start boycotting their services and protesting their policies.

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