Flickr Nukes DMU

Flickr Nukes DMU

Flickr just nuked deleteme uncensored. A group with a long tradition on Flickr with over 5,000 posts and 3,000 members all gone, instantly. Flickr objected to discussions in the group which they said violated Flickr’s TOS.

This was done without warning.

Rather than delete a single offending thread or offer any type of alternative arrangement flickr simply nuked the group.

It is clear to me now that an uncensored internet discussion forum is not possible on Flickr. In light of Flickr’s decision to nuke DMU I’ve set up (for now) a temporary arrangement where the game can still be played here.

This new group will have no forum associated with it. Instead the forum has been moved to FriendFeed, a site much more open to free speech. I would encourage any of the DMU members to join the new group on FriendFeed here where we can discuss what went down more specifically.

FriendFeed’s forum structure is a bit different (but very similar) to Flickr’s.

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55 Comments

  1. andertho says:

    TH, I don’t think the Friendfeed idea will work.

    I have no problem with an uncensored place that gets nuked by the flickr powers every six months. Please go back to DMU and start it again for real as if nothing happened. The Lightbox is intact.

  2. flifishun says:

    andertho is correct

    (did i just say that?)

  3. Cody says:

    Pretty sure there was a warning.

  4. I’m with andertho, for two reasons: (1) what andertho said- it doesn’t matter if its nuked every couple months (2) it’ll keep everything together (on flickr*)

    *by Yahoo!

  5. Amazing. They have zero sense of responsibility. Zero sense of loyalty to their customers. I would not be surprised if Flickr started deleting the accounts of people who contributed to DMU, saying that contributing to that group was a violation of the ToS.

  6. Jess Dennis says:

    TH- I agree with Andertho; the FF thing will not work.

    Is it possible to move this to Zooomr? Please say Yes.

  7. Daniel says:

    I’m putting my two cents in.. Also agree to just start another DMU on flickr unless they say they’re just going to delete it.

  8. Nathan says:

    This is really beginning to suck. I’m seriously considering leaving Flickr and moving all my photos to somewhere else or going back to hosting my own stuff.

  9. James Rhodes says:

    Well my work here is done, have a nice life, see you all real soon :)

  10. Thomas Cock says:

    So I just had an email from flickr saying the group was deleted internally, meaning one of the admins did it.

  11. Thomas Cock says:

    ah quit with the bullshit Andy, you nuked the group just admit it….fucking coward….

  12. Ignacio says:

    I would love if we could use an external site to host the group, but the fact that we always post flickr related stuff (links, photos, comments, invite people, etc) makes it impossible to do it in some other place..

    I agree with andertho, we should have the group back to flickr, this time with a contingency plan.. maybe a mirror group, where we are all suscribed at the same time we are in the new DMU, if they nuke the active one, we just go to the next one, laughing on Flickr’s faces

  13. Shims says:

    TH … restarting the group is a far better way to stick it in Heather’s eye than letting her win.

    Put the admins back up on the new DMU real estate you created and open up the forum. This isn’t about any one of us and people want their home back.

    If you don’t want to admin it, I can understand that, but I think the majority want to sweep up the ashes and get on with it.

  14. Wizum says:

    I’m curious as to what was being discussed that “broke the rules”?

  15. Shims says:

    It’s nonsense really. Just an excuse Flickr used to nuke something they’ve wanted to nuke for a long time. Probably since the day the group was created.

    Our buddy James just created the conditions needed to launch the warhead.

  16. Shims says:

    Neither of them will be allowed to win.

  17. Douche Hawk says:

    you didn’t get warning dumbasses because one of the admin, I can only assume Thomas Cock, nuked the group. You people are suckers if you think otherwise.

  18. Shims says:

    You’re a fool for thinking anyone would believe that crap.

  19. Douche Hawk says:

    Which is exactly why he did it….

  20. Thomas says:

    This is not just hoping for the best. Flickr will keep disturbing communities. As communities are what drives flickr, I wonder where this flickr thing will end, if they keep playing like this.

  21. Douche Hawk says:

    who really gives a shit ? Its a fad, just like Myspace and Facebook, it will die along with Thomas Hawks’ 15 mins of fame….

  22. Douche Hawk says:

    Its absolutely hilarious that you are all whining about it though…what the fuck did you people expect ? I was a shit group full of shitty people, who did nothing but be shitty to anyone that wasn’t in their little clic.

  23. Arthur Dent says:

    Why not just go to Zooomr instead and stick it to Flickr?

  24. Ooops… I mean “digg”.

  25. theresa says:

    I took some screenshots of the last active thread in dmu but its time consuming. I copy pasted this other one (but there were several threads between you and the viking. don’t want to post it to flickr, they might delete it.

    Soooo

    thevikingjames says:

    Where is this internet mob of 20,000 people you were talking about ? I’ve only seen about 200 hits on my site in 12 hours. Man people are hanging on your every word Andrew, I thought my life was going to be ruined by this earth shattering post of yours ? Could it be that people really don’t give a shit what Thomas Cock thinks about anything. That the only people who suport you are your own set of personal cheerleaders ? You know the ones who gobble up every little piece of shit you think is a photograph, and give you praise for your absolute mediocrity ?

    Check and Mate, Thomas Cock you are a pathetic excuse for a human being….
    Originally posted at 6:38AM, 12 October 2009 PDT ( permalink )
    thevikingjames edited this topic 5 hours ago.

    sandelion says:

    Ok you win….can we move on yet?
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh well Christ Almighty, now that you said so I can move on with my life…. Oh no wait I can’t because its been ruined “for years to come” by Tom Cock’s blog…. I can’t move on with life….its just too difficult now…

    I guess like the rest of you I have to put my nose up Andrews ass and smell what he had for breakfast… sniff snifff……mmmm waffles….
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    James, an internet mob is the *last* thing I’d ever want to happen. I already told you that I hate internet mobs. The problem is though that you never know when a post might resonate and people might take it upon themselves and then you lose control of a situation. A warning of possible outcome before choosing to write it seemed like fair play.

    I never wanted to incite an internet mob on you. I wouldn’t want to do that to anyone. I simply wanted to associate the words that you use with the first page search results for your name so that those who might look into you in the future would see that you think it’s appropriate to threaten people with violence. The things that you are proud of. That’s all. Google has a long memory — far, far, longer than we’ll be discussing this in DMU. Mission accomplished. We can move on now.

    Where’s that class action lawsuit you had coming?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=james+rhodes&ie=utf-8&oe=...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=...
    Originally posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )
    Thomas Hawk (a group admin) edited this topic 4 hours ago.

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh thats not the big man talk you had going yesterday….I thought you were going to ruin my life for years to come. Come to find out, nobody really give a shit. Eat your humble pie and shut the fuck up Andy, nobody really gives a fuck what you have to say, or about your bullshit stance against whoever is bugging you at the moment.

    let see how did that go again yesterday ?

    I want you to be very clear about what is possible to go down when I write this blog post because internet mobs are frequently not easy to control. I’ve had experience with more than one and I fucking hate them. When they are out frequently they are out. All the I’m sorry’s I fucked up in the world after the fact frequently can’t fix them. That’s why I’m taking my time to be very careful about how this thing might go down and why I feel that I owe you a pretty detailed explanation ahead of time for what it might look like.

    ” When I blog my post with your name in the headline, within 60 minutes or so it will be on the first page Google search results for your name. It will stay there for many years. Your name will be associated with someone who makes death threats on the internet and someone who wrote about potentially mugging me.

    This will piss people off. I’m a pretty reasonable guy and well liked generally speaking by most people who follow my blog. In addition to my blog the post will go out to the 20,000 or so people combined who follow my Twitter/Friendfeed threads. It will be a sensationalistic juicy blog post and as such it will generate alot of attention.

    I’m not sure where it will go. Simon Blint (mentioned above) moved out of his house for a while because he was petrified after getting death threats himself and people having figured out his home address and began publishing it on line.

    I know you’re a big tough guy who doesn’t care about these sorts of things but I fucking don’t like being threatened and I’m never one to just sit down and fucking let it go when some fucking internet bully like you is threatening me.

    So that’s where we are at. Consider yourself duly warned. ”

    No no I believe its was 20,0000 + people you were trying to get to “make my life a living hell for years to come ”
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh and I really love your one sided, slanted, dramatic post. My favorite part is how you didn’t even post a link to the original thread. What a loser.
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    about what is possible to go down when I write this blog post because internet mobs are frequently not easy to control. I’ve had experience with more than one and I fucking hate them

    Notice that the operative words in the post above are “possible” and “might”. Also notice that I say I don’t know where the post will go. Notice I also said that I hate internet mobs. I simply thought it was fair to warn you about a possible outcome, prior to publishing the post. It seemed like the decent and fair thing to do. I don’t like being in a position (as I’ve been in in the past) when a critical posts spirals out of control.

    I have no interest in making your life a living hell. I simply wanted to associate the words that you chose to use to threaten people with violence with your Google search results. That’s all. The post is largely simply your own words being quoted. You seem proud of those words and seem willing to stand by them, and as such have no problem with them being associated with you as a person publicly. Now they are just a bit more public going forward in the future is all.

    No biggie James for you I’m sure.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    wheres all this attention its supposed to generate ? I’ve had three friend request so far saying what an absolute tool people think you are. So if anything you have helped me, not hurt me. Anywone who follows your blog is an amateur, because nothing on your blog peaks the interest of any professional. So am I to worry about the wrath of 20,000 amateur photographers ?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    wheres all this attention its supposed to generate ? I’ve had three friend request so far saying what an absolute tool people think you are. So if anything you have helped me, not hurt me.

    Glad to hear it James. My intention in writing the post was not to hurt you. Glad you think it has helped.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    So am I to worry about the wrath of 20,000 amateur photographers ?

    No, I don’t think that this post is going to go viral in any relevant way. I wouldn’t worry about that.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    “This will piss people off. I’m a pretty reasonable guy and well liked generally speaking by most people who follow my blog. In addition to my blog the post will go out to the 20,000 or so people combined who follow my Twitter/Friendfeed threads. It will be a sensationalistic juicy blog post and as such it will generate alot of attention”

    doesn’t sound at all like you wanted to make my life a “living hell” and you were trying to incite a mob at all Andy.

    See the thing is my memory is far longer than googles, and you Andy Thomas Cock will stay on my radar for some time to come. You and I will meet someday, and all in the universe will be right with the lord Thomas Hawk Almighty….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    oh well now I can breathe a sigh of relief, shit I’ve been up all night packing boxes to move the fuck out of my house before your cheerleader posse started with the death threats…. all that work for nothing….I hate you Thomas Cock, you are a meanie….
    Originally posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )
    thevikingjames edited this topic 4 hours ago.

    Thomas Hawk says:

    See the thing is my memory is far longer than googles, and you Andy Thomas Cock will stay on my radar for some time to come. You and I will meet someday, and all in the universe will be right with the lord Thomas Hawk Almighty….

    Ok James, warning you about a possible outcome seemed like a responsible thing to do given the situation. I’m really, really glad actually that this post will not go viral and will hopefully be quickly forgotten soon. I honestly don’t like dealing with internet mobs and would prefer to avoid them.

    The warning was simply that nothing more.

    My intention was simply to associate your name with the words that you are proud of. I’m sure most people think that your threats of violence are perfectly reasonable and that as you say, in the long run this will only help you not hurt you, you’ll get more Facebook friends (as you already have) you’ll maybe get more “professional” photography work out of it, etc.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    a warning, also known as a threat….fucking douchenozzle
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    can i play ?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    so james are you such a puss that you can;t let the world see you photos on your thread?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    James, if you were packing boxes, you had already moved house.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    and the point in that is ?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    never intended as a threat at all James, I’d have felt bad though if things got out of control and if they did I could at least say you were warned. I seriously *hate* internet mobs. Some of my most unhappy times online have been when I’ve had to deal with them. Quite honestly. No threat intended in there at all. You are misreading things.

    As you say, you generated three new facebook friends and probably tons of other great opportunities in the future over a post like this. Congrats. I on the other hand accomplished what I wanted, associating your name with words that you are proud of that I objected to. It’s a win win situation James. We should both be happy about it at this point no?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    you hardly ever get the point, do you?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    ( the vicky know as jill )
    a warning is not a treat,
    a warning is what could or may happen,
    a threat is what will try to happen .
    understand the difference?

    i would recomend you toss your thesaurus in the garbage can.
    words have precise meanings …
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    you also gave up your professional integrity along the way for a personal vendetta….oh no wait you already did that with your rant and Mr. Blint….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    so JIMMY back to my question why hide your photos? you scared? embarsed? ashamed?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    vicky when you get into a playground fight you can’t really call the other guy childish, after all what integrity do you have, i mean really
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    james, for you to preach about integrity is like al capone talking about law enforcement.

    mr conflict photographer
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    where are your photos james?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    oh how convenient, I am considered to be threatening, while Andy is just “warning” hmmmm

    Well Tommy, I am “warning” you that you are a over-bloated douchebag ego maniac, and the next time I see you, wether it be late at night, walking to your car, in public on one of your photowalks, or even outside your house. I’m warning you that you are going to need a good set of dentures when I’m done with you.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    you also gave up your professional integrity along the way for a personal vendetta..

    You may see it that way, I do not. I don’t like being threatened with violence James. It was inappropriate for you to bring me into your little pissing match with others. I’d never done anything to you. I’m not concerned about any tarnish that this blog post might have on my “professional integrity.” I feel that calling someone out on inappropriate threats of violence is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I stand by my words as you stand by yours.

    Since we are both happy about the post at this point it seems pointless to even discuss it.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Ruan, just shut the fuck up and let the adults talk for once…… you live up to that yapping chihuahua analogy more with each passing day….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    Well Tommy, I am “warning” you that you are a over-bloated douchebag ego maniac, and the next time I see you, wether it be late at night, walking to your car, in public on one of your photowalks, or even outside your house. I’m warning you that you are going to need a good set of dentures when I’m done with you.

    Come on out James. We’re all getting together in Palo Alto on Friday.

    thomashawk.com/2009/10/photowalk-downtown-palo-alto-next-…
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    I am well aware of where you are and when you are there
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    sandelion says:

    Can we move on yet?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    I am well aware of where you are and when you are there

    ok then, it sounds like we’re done. Mission accomplished for both of us.
    Originally posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )
    Thomas Hawk (a group admin) edited this topic 4 hours ago.

    adameros says:

    I think I know why he hides his pictures.

    Vikings rape, pillage, and plunder. Most, if not all of these activities are illegal or at least legally frowned upon. So Vikings pictures are likely of these activites, so he keeps them out of sight.

    Or hes afraid his viking friends will find out all his pictures are of kittens and flowers.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    no just of your mother and the donkey show she does twice a day in Juarez….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh Tommy, I’m not done with you by far….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    sandelion says:

    moveon.org ?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Wendy Martyn says:

    this is a complete bullshit troll, sounding more and more like dmu left-overs
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    how would you know about what happens in juarez?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    what a coincidence Wendy, you look like a troll, could we be related in some way ?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Wendy Martyn says:

    rasberries
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    boysenberries
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    d’namur says:

    mulberries
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Wendy Martyn says:

    potatoes
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    jesus Wendy, you can’t even stay on subject, berries was the theme there not vegetables….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    oh and Thomas, your blog only comes up on the second page of google for me, so I think you need to do a little more work with your internet butt buddies…..
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    adameros says:

    GO ahead and show those pictures, no need to hide them.

    Come on, put up or shut up.
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    sigh, is everyone is this group a retard or just the men ?
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    if by group you mean the delightful bunch of people in your head, then yes.
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    that fucking dog again, seriously someone for the love of god shut that yapping mutt up !!!
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh Tommy, even someone from your own blog called you out, one of your own cheerleaders…..

    “wow, the pettiness of this post astounds me, not to mention that you are now seeking to exploit the very people who have supported you over the years over some “you were mean to me on the internet”. This group you are in is built on being obnoxious and mean to one another. Sounds like it got out of hand and now you don’t know how to handle it in a reasonable way. It is shameful how you are trying to get your supporters to essentially create a mob against some dumb ass on the internet.

    Your credibility? tarnished.

    grow up ”
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    why dont you reply to my posts james? scared?
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    why dont you post some pics of juarez jimmy?
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Yapyapyapyapyapyapyap …….
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    J-u-a-r-e-z

    ?

    ke?
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Jakes_World says:

    potatoe soup!
    it’s in the crockpot now..
    seems appropriate for this thread.
    Posted 68 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    HAWWWWWWK !!!!!! Bring out the one the call HAWWWWWK !!!!
    Posted 21 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    he’s in Juarez.
    why dont you go look for him?
    Posted 20 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Reply to this topic?

    How do I format my reply?
    OR

  26. theresa says:

    And in the thread titled Thomas Hawk come out and play (started by the viking)

    Thomas Hawk !!!! Come out and playyyyyyy :)

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh Tommy I love you so, that time we shared in Paris together, the sweet nothings you whispered in my ear, I wish time would have just frozen there and then and we could have spent an eternity in each others arms….
    Posted at 2:46PM, 11 October 2009 PDT ( permalink )

    Tioga Pass says:

    Hey I like Vikings. They contributed so much to western civilization. I never knew Christopher Columbus was a viking and he landed in Nova Scotia after he left Iceland to discover a new route to India.
    Posted 11 hours ago. ( permalink )

    adameros says:

    National coming out day certainly had an effect on Viking…

    0_o
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Hawwwwwk !!!!! I want to taste your blood !!!!
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    yes James?
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    Sorry I was busy responding to you on my blog.
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    when are where Hawk, when and where ?
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    when and where what James?
    Posted 89 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    don’t play games HAWWWWK !!! BE A MAN !!!
    Originally posted 88 minutes ago. ( permalink )
    thevikingjames edited this topic 88 minutes ago.

    Thomas Hawk says:

    James, question for you, a serious one. Why didn’t you take your father’s last name?
    Posted 87 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    for the same reason you need a fake name…..
    Posted 85 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    Posted 83 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    Nah, mine was more a means of literary license. Mark Twain sounds better than Samuel Clemens sort of thing. No, I mean you chose not to take your fathers last name a long time ago. What is wrong with Kolce? It’s not a bad name. Are you not proud of your father? Was he not around much or something? Was he killed in the war and your mother remarried? What’s behind that?
    Posted 79 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    And by “behind that” I hope you answer me.
    Posted 79 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    lets talk about your wife and your boys a bit shall we, where was it you said you lived again ? Oakland ?
    Posted 78 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    spdorsey says:

    I see this ending in no healthy place.
    Posted 75 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    James it’s not meant to be a sinister question. You don’t want to talk about it that’s fine. For what it’s worth I’m sorry that you felt that people in this group treated you rudely and obnoxiously. You might not have noticed but personally I don’t tend to take the same tone with people. If you bother to read some of my emails that I’ve sent to people when they are attacked for not following the rules they are nothing but polite. Here’s one I sent someone yesterday. I’ve routinely called for politeness in the group over time.

    I hope you can understand where it might feel not so good to have someone claim to have stalked you and almost mugged you when you really had never had any interaction with them at all, had never offended them, and had no beef with them.
    Posted 73 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    Being polite means a hand job
    Posted 69 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    And Thomas, if you didn’t read it before, I really did used to respect you. When I was starting out in still photography I used to read your blog quite a bit. This group, which you invited me to in case you were unaware, not only turned me off to you, but to flickr, and the online photog community altogether. This is why I don’t buy into your fake brotherhood of flickr photogs, because bottom line, a website is nothing more than a business card, and these communities you support are exactly whats killing the industry so seem to think you care so deeply for.

    Its actually sad that people can’t be decent to one another or post valid points on here, in the hopes of genuine debate without the fear of being ridiculed, or some jackass coming along with a school house mentality.

    The one and only reason I keep coming back to this group is that I paid for two years membership, and I intend on getting my moneys worth. This group is pointless Thom, its sad that you think it has any merritt at all. This group contradicted every thing I understood you to be, a supportive fellow photographer who is genuinely interested in helping other photographers learn and grow in this profession. But now I see you for exactly what you are, its a pity really.
    Posted 65 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    and you can see how I can make the mistake of it being a sinister question….do you even read any of these threads ?
    Posted 63 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    and these communities you support are exactly whats killing the industry so seem to think you care so deeply for.

    How are these communities “killing the industry,” I don’t see that.

    Its actually sad that people can’t be decent to one another or post valid points on here, in the hopes of genuine debate without the fear of being ridiculed, or some jackass coming along with a school house mentality.

    I feel that generally speaking I have been decent to the people in this group. I know that I’ve engaged in literally hundreds of conversations here that were genuine debate. I hadn’t ridiculed you. The groups not for everyone though. That’s probably what it said in your invitation. It may be pointless to you but it’s not pointless to other people.

    Why the need to make it personal about me?
    Posted 60 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Did I ? I remember going to the show, I remember seeing you, watching you, but I don’t remember actually doing anything to you…. so please explain….
    Posted 53 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    so no hand job then?
    Posted 52 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    only if you wife is giving me one…. ;)
    Posted 51 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Therrr says:

    TH is usually polite in most cases, however, i understood the group was more about tolerance than politeness. Polite is for utata. Harmless blowing off steam is for dmu.

    bottom line, a website is nothing more than a business card,

    I’ve actually come around to this point of view myself – and mainly because of the controversy with SJ’s approach to the Whitehouse photostream. At first I thought SJ stepped WAY over the line with his protest on that stream. TH & SJ’s point of view convinced me that it was just a place to distribute whitehouse propeganda and so I came to the conclusion that a photostream was not so special or precious anymore than any other media distribution place. Flickr is just big media reinvented as social networking to get us all more engaged with propaganda of government and large companies like Starbucks.

    I think the whitehouse should distribute its photos on all the US photosharing sites – zoomr, smugmug, picassa etc.
    Posted 46 minutes ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    Did I ? I remember going to the show, I remember seeing you, watching you, but I don’t remember actually doing anything to you…. so please explain….

    You should have said Hello James. Things might have gone down differently between us. I’m always up for meeting new photographers.

    The explanation is simple. You claimed to be watching me when I was unaware of it and you told me that I came very close to being mugged by you. That’s not a comfortable thing to hear someone say about you James. Especially, again, when I’d been nothing but interact politely with you personally in the past. I don’t remember voting on any of your images in the pool specifically, but I will tell you that if I did it was a polite vote one way or the other because all of my votes always are.
    Posted 44 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Zooomr…..Andrew what the fuck do you think you are doing with this anyway ? Its a piss poor version of flickr, you do know that right ?
    Posted 43 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Therrr says:

    And people getting this bent out of shape because of Roger or someone else yelling at them to vote is silly. These kind of flame wars have happened since the beginning of deleteme and mostly just because the person was too precious about their photography and got upset when their photo got shat on in an “insult your photo” game.
    Posted 43 minutes ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

    Therrr says:

    So vinny got his account deleted for issuing a death threat to chalk? Interesting. I always wondered. Could we find out more about that? I’d rather read something more interesting than this Viking/Th thing, it has gotten old but the source of it in flickr history might be interesting.
    Posted 41 minutes ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

    shepherd.johnson says:

    Thomas Hawk/Hunk upsets and confuses me.
    Posted 40 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    The group is about tolerance. But at the same time those that know me and my history in this group have probably heard me say many times that just because you can say something doesn’t always mean you should say something.

    I’ve stressed responsibility for one’s words many times in the past. The fact that some do not always behave responsibly though is a necessary evil in a way to exist in an entirely uncensored environment. Something that I value as everybody’s line as to what ought to be tolerated and what ought not to be tolerated is different. By tolerating it all you avoid that problem.

    But again, an uncensored group is not for everyone. Especially those whose tolerance levels can’t take it.

    But me personally, I’m generally speaking courteous and polite with people. Sometimes I’ll get angry and probably say things that are not so polite, but usually only when provoked.
    Posted 40 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    I’m not really doing anything with it right now James. Initially I’d hoped that it could be a marketplace for stock photography with the bulk of all sales going to the photographer. I thought it would be a good tool for photographers to have to compete more independently against the Getty Images of the world.

    Kristopher Tate who developed the site and I fell out of sync with regards to the the vision of the site. He wanted to turn it more into a Twitter clone sort of thing for Japan and left the U.S. We rarely interact anymore and it’s mostly just on autopilot at this point unless Kristopher decides to do something more significant with it. I can’t code so the balls really in his court in that regard.

    Zooomr has been a disappointment for me because I believed firmly in the idea I’d originally had (and which was shared at one point by Kristopher) for the company and product.

    I’m disappointed in the current version of Flickr James and aware of its state and condition relative to Flickr.

    Hunk is just a troll Sherpherd. Don’t worry about him. He’s funny sometimes.
    Posted 36 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Tommy you seem to miss the point that nothing happened to you, as unsettling as my comments my be, I never acted on them. That should tell you that at least I have some moral standards. But now we have gotten beyond that haven’t we ?

    Yes it is sad, its sad that I was so full of anger that I couldn’t think of anything more than watching you swallow your teeth. But I doubt things would have gone any different, the fact is you sat and watched while someone YOU invited to this group was verbally abused, and why ? Because I didn’t follow your precious rules, so much for this tolerance everyone is talking about ….. and for the record I think you chimed in a time or two… but you were always watching and I’m sure it provided you with some good laughs. What puzzles me is your inability to understand how this could come back to bite you in the ass.

    I never sought out this group at all, I was happy in my own flickr world until this group crossed my path. It was this group that turned me off to flickr and to you. You and your group ruined a prefectly supportive photographer who never had one qualm about sharing my photography with others, and lend what support I could to them on their paths to becoming a better photographer. I am nothing but a product of this group Andrew, do you like what you see and hear ?
    Posted 35 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    So vinny got his account deleted for issuing a death threat to chalk? Interesting. I always wondered. Could we find out more about that? I’d rather read something more interesting than this Viking/Th thing, it has gotten old but the source of it in flickr history might be interesting.

    That’s my recollections based on threads in the old DMU and what I remember Chalk telling me. It was a long time ago though. You’re not allowed to use Flickr to threaten people physically. Vinny threatened to kill Chalk and from what I remember was reported over it and Flickr nuked Vinny’s account. You’d probably have to get more from Chalk on that directly as I think the threads where most of this was talked about in the old DMU are long gone at this point.
    Posted 34 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    james, the kind of help you would give no one here needs.
    Posted 32 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    see Thomas, my point exactly. People here can’t even have a conversation without some tool butting in an trying to instigate an arguement.
    Posted 29 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    adameros says:

    Help from James is like a molten glass enema…
    Posted 29 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    exhibit B
    Posted 28 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    Yes it is sad, its sad that I was so full of anger that I couldn’t think of anything more than watching you swallow your teeth. But I doubt things would have gone any different, the fact is you sat and watched while someone YOU invited to this group was verbally abused, and why ? Because I didn’t follow your precious rules, so much for this tolerance everyone is talking about ….. and for the record I think you chimed in a time or two… but you were always watching and I’m sure it provided you with some good laughs. What puzzles me is your inability to understand how this could come back to bite you in the ass.

    Actually James I don’t think I did. Usually when I’m aware of a problem with someone breaking the rules I send them a polite email like the one linked to in my earlier post.

    I can’t and don’t keep up with every thread. I missed the whole part about you coming close to mugging me for instance when you said it the first time or I would have said something about it then.

    Frequently I skim threads or skip some threads entirely. I (and I suspect most people in this group) do not have the time to actively follow every single thread. Had I been aware of your voting problem in the group I likely would have sent you an email (if I had time) as I’ve done for many others in this group when they don’t get the rules of the game initially.

    If you think I “chimed in” abusing you please point me to those posts. Nothing of mine in this group has ever been deleted and I’d be happy to talk about them. Sometimes I’ll post an image or some other sort of nonsensical thing into a thread just because, but even if I did that I don’t think anything was every directed at you personally or directly. I didn’t even realize who you were or the backstory behind your problems in this group before yesterday.

    I’ve certainly never sat around gloating watching other people abuse you.

    Also and again. This group is not *my* group. The fact that I admin doesn’t make it mine. It’s not Posey’s or Wendy’s or Pierre’s either. I’ve always believed and maintained that the group belongs to all of the members.
    Posted 27 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    and so what of this tolerance you speak of ? I see no evidence of it in any of these threads…
    Posted 25 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    see Thomas, my point exactly. People here can’t even have a conversation without some tool butting in an trying to instigate an arguement.

    Right James, but that’s a lot different than threatening someone with physical violence. You crossed a line. You have to put up with some of that in an uncensored world. But again. It seemed to me that suggesting that you almost mugged me simply for admining a forum went too far. I hope you can see that.

    And see again, people “butting in” really isn’t about me. That’s a beef between you and them. Not you and me.
    Originally posted 24 minutes ago. ( permalink )
    Thomas Hawk (a group admin) edited this topic 22 minutes ago.

    Thomas Hawk says:

    and so what of this tolerance you speak of ? I see no evidence of it in any of these threads…

    tolerance for free speech, tolerance for ideas, even unpopular ones.
    Originally posted 23 minutes ago. ( permalink )
    Thomas Hawk (a group admin) edited this topic 23 minutes ago.

    thevikingjames says:

    nope I don’t see that at all. Physical violence is just another form of communication, when all else fails I just follow the American way….
    Posted 21 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Therrr says:

    I think the threads where most of this was talked about in the old DMU are long gone at this point.

    And no doubt also from DM where the dispute would have erupted. Just don’t ever forget that there are more DM threads preserved than there are original DMU threads preserved so you haven’t won the high ground in the “censored vs uncensored” game YET. Escalating this silly Viking guy’s gripe by taking it so personal and to your blog really raises the stakes and changes some of the unwritten rules (norms?),. Don’t think this group can’t go in the same direction as dmu original if you make too much of these insults. A vikingdude comes around every few months when there is a dispute over hostile photo voting. James is definately more hostile but he doesn’t stay around long. Big deal.
    Posted 21 minutes ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

    thevikingjames says:

    it is about you Andrew thats what you don’t get… How are you going to blame me for just voicing my anger and freely speaking my mind ?

    You seem to contradict yourself here….
    Posted 20 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Therrr says:

    How many cases are there of people actually ACTING OUT violence that they have threatened over the internet? With all the flamewars in the history of the internet….how many?

    Sure, I don’t like these violent threats either. You could report abuse I guess. Or just ignore it.
    Posted 17 minutes ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

    thevikingjames says:

    Truly Thom, I think posting it to your blog was just about the most retarded thing you could have done, I could have seen contacting flickr, or the authorities, but posting it to your blog was pretty lame and ineffective.
    Posted 17 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    I don’t agree that threats of violence are ever appropriate James. People certainly have had their accounts deleted on Flickr in the past when reported over it as Posey mentioned earlier. It’s not allowed on Flickr but ethically it’s also something I’m against personally.

    But even assuming violence were an appropriate response, *I* never had any beef with you. Point me to these threads where you say I “chimed in” insulting you from before. Point me to comments that I’ve made on your photos insulting you.
    Posted 14 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    Truly Thom, I think posting it to your blog was just about the most retarded thing you could have done, I could have seen contacting flickr, or the authorities, but posting it to your blog was pretty lame and ineffective.

    Possibly James. Who knows. I do stupid things all the time. I felt you’d threatened me with violence and it seemed like the right thing to me to do.
    Posted 13 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    find my original thread, I hear someone has been saving it for some time now, obviously you people must have pretty boring lives if you are saving original postings I made, but whatever.
    Posted 12 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    And do you really think anything would change by posting it ? Nothing has and nothing will, but that is a bit of a change of tune from last night. You and your anger just got the better of you didn’t it ? See how that happens ? You anger getting the best of you, and saying and doing stupid things. Are we learning yet ?
    Posted 11 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    it is about you Andrew thats what you don’t get… How are you going to blame me for just voicing my anger and freely speaking my mind ?

    You seem to contradict yourself here….

    Where have I said you can’t speak your mind? Have I censored you here? No. Have I banned you? No. I could do both of those things. I won’t do either.

    But it doesn’t mean that I won’t object morally to speech that you say. I frequently object to words people say. The Klan says things I find deplorable all the time and I fully support their rights to say whatever it is that they wish. I also fully support my right to object to what they’ve said and call them on it when I feel that they say something inappropriate, as I felt you did.

    James, can you see how I might feel being presented with speech by someone who has claimed to stalked me and almost mugged me when I had no beef with him and am generally nothing but polite in this forum to others?
    Posted 9 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    hopefully you can clearly see how you neck is on the line here. I would encourage anyone who has a problem with you to solve it by threats of physical violence, it seems to be the only thing that grabs your attention.
    Posted 7 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hawk says:

    I would encourage anyone who has a problem with you to solve it by threats of physical violence, it seems to be the only thing that grabs your attention.

    No, lots of things get my attention. The fact that I missed some thread from way back whenever doesn’t mean that at all. In fact a simple flickr mail generally gets my attention just fine if I’m not staying on top of 100% of the conversations in this group (which I definitely do not).
    Posted 4 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ososment says:

    Boys, both of you need to chill the fuck out with this shit.

    Bringing in real life stuff to a stupid internet argument is both stupid and dangerous.

    Neither of you know each other irl. In fact if you met in a bar without realising who each other is you’d prolly munch a sandwich and swallow a few wets without even so much as a cross word.

    So really boys, slow down.
    Posted 3 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    in your crusade against flickr censorship you have clearly turned a blind eye of what you are creating with groups like this, and why censorship, might actually be a good idea. Its groups like this that are a complete and utter contradiction to what flickr is supposed to be.

    But I honestly think the only reason you ever had beef with flickr to boast your own answer to a photography social network i.e. Zooomr
    Posted 2 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    There are more comments in my feedreader on this thread, up to the point where the group got nuked

    Reply to this topic?

  27. theresa says:

    Page 3 of another thread concerning The Viking (started by ruanniemann)

    The Viking James, Update:

    ruanniemann says:

    i have just completed my weekly Google and Yahoo search of Jamesey, and it appears he has done nothing of note yet.

    his website is still broken and has no major sponsors.

    my screenshots are ready and waiting, and i fear it may be a long wait.

    but i am a patient man.
    Posted at 10:41AM, 11 October 2009 PDT ( permalink )

    (201 to 304 of 304 replies in The Viking James, Update:)

    andertho says:

    You have a lot to be proud of.
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Jakes_World says:

    ME for ADMIN!!!
    and James ,it’s a little rude of you not to add me on FB. I never did anything to you . I just like adding friends! I need more peeps for my mafia. yes REALLY.
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    well fuckin’ DUH !
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Mo Tabesh says:

    Mo Tabesh for ADMIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Mo Tabesh for human sacrifice !!!!
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Miss Nikski says:

    are there men in boxer briefs in this thread??
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Jakes_World says:

    so are we friends?? FFS I got to level up!!

    sadly, no. Maybe now??
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    rolandvarriale says:

    is that a 1968 black beauty in the background?
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    flifishun says:

    Let me be clear: I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of DMU leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations. To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who’ve been admins of DMU.
    It is with great humility that I accept DMU adminship.
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    is a gibson les paul, circa 74 hand adapted for use with Guitar Hero, and Rockband, I’m first class all the way ….
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    leesure says:

    are there men in boxer briefs in this thread??

    No, but there’s one in a thong HERE
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    andertho says:

    What brand of M1911 is that in your hand?

    You really need to buy more ammo.
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    if you are as good a shot as me, you don’t need more ammo….
    Posted 16 hours ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    Guys, he may look kinda chubs on that totally sweet dirtbike he is riding around on facebook but crazy underpants guy with guns has been going around the internet for a minute now.

    One example found by searching for “guy in underwear with guns”
    pictureisunrelated.com/2009/03/17/i-am-irresistible/

    I think there are a few other poses out there too. Dude is living the dream.
    Posted 15 hours ago. ( permalink )

    suisun says:

    and for a different pose…….

    failblog.org/2008/04/04/militia-fail/
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    Yes! That was the one I was looking for!
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    andertho says:

    ok, so i’m guessing that is not actually a pic of jimmy the viking.

    the funny thing is, it’s totally believable that it could be.
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    suisun says:

    No I don’t think it is.
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    Nah, his unibrow is all wrong, while that guy is totally the type of guy to have a picture of him riding a dirtbike on his facebook page, it’d clearly be a picture of him naked on a dirtbike with ten guns taped to his butt.
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    andertho says:

    jimmy should ponder the fact that everyone here accepted without question the idea that was an actual picture of him.

    ponder deeply, jimmy.
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    what exactly am I pondering ? The fact that you are all pretty much mentally challenged ? You need to ponder what the fuck your problem is, because I don’t think you quite know yet.
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    andertho says:

    what exactly am I pondering ?

    you most likely are NOT pondering the very clear point made two posts above.

    that’s exactly the point.
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    is that really the best you got ? really ? can’t make a little more effort ? You = gullible and ignorant
    Me = laughing my ass off at the whole lot of you
    Posted 14 hours ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    That’s because you’re clearly better than us. As evidenced by your photostream, witty remarks and totally bangin’ website.
    Posted 13 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    now you are getting the picture candy man….
    Posted 13 hours ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    Are you really threatening to rough people up because you didn’t vote and got made fun of for it? Just come out and say it. It’ll make us all feel better.
    Posted 13 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    I’ll just post a dialogue from the big lebowski

    Walter Sobchak: So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You’re like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know…
    The Dude: (interrupting) Walter, Walter, what’s the point, man?
    Walter Sobchak: There’s no reason – here’s my point, dude, there’s no f**king reason why these two…
    Donny: Yeah, Walter, what’s your point?
    Posted 13 hours ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    I think you’re making a point, but like Andertho said, I’m not sure you know which one you’re making.
    Posted 13 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    do you ?
    Posted 13 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    you still at this?
    Posted 12 hours ago. ( permalink )

    rolandvarriale says:

    you are the first person in my life I have found to use a quote incorrectly from the big lebowski. This group is just overflowing with superlatives
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    your overflowing with pussy juice, whats your point ?
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    i think you mean “you’re”

    whats your point? Mr. Journalist?
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    that you are a douchebag, with no life, and has to go to work, if you aren’t already at work. Enjoy your cubicle :)
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    thats “have” to go to work.
    is English your first language?

    i can see why you chose photojournalism.
    too bad you photos are about as good as your english.
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    big words, from such a big pussy. Who is fighting your little campaign for you now ? Oh thats right Andy Thomas Cock, your personal attack Chihuahua…. you two are fuck buddies, admit it….
    Originally posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )
    thevikingjames edited this topic 5 hours ago.

    andertho says:

    Jimmy the Viking has grown tiresome.
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Wendy Martyn says:

    three trolls rolled into one ;-}
    Posted 6 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    who was is?
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    just about as tired as this group….
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    _steve_gobeil_ says:

    god! It must be another cody troll. The liquid anal waste is getting quite deep.
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    must be from all the butt fucking Thomas Cock has going on all of you cheerleaders…
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    sandelion says:

    I think research show that this isn’t a troll.
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    ah fun to be had
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Wendy Martyn says:

    let the games begin ;-}
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    “SIR: Poseyal : KNIGHT of the DESPOSYNI says:

    yes wendy time for some fun : )
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    yawn….
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Wendy Martyn says:

    wait, stop, jimmy is down for his nap
    Posted 5 hours ago. ( permalink )

    andertho says:

    jimmy do you like bacon?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    oh thats what that smell was, you were actually thinking for once in your life….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    are you this bad with insults on purpose?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    someone please shut that fucking dog up !!
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    leesure says:

    Why don’t you just threaten his family again? That seemed to work the 1st time, Jimmy.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    didnt the Son of Sam also have problems with a dog yapping all the time?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Leesure why don’t you go puff on another cock…
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    homosexuality is a big theme running through your insults jimmy?

    something you wanna share with us?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    simondeboner says:

    No wonder you don’t care about TH’s threats.

    The Kolce address is your mail address in Dallas.

    You live out of your SUV with a fucking dog. No wonder you know so much about yappers.

    You used to have the fo-toe in your stream. It was VERY cute.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Im not the one with an oral fixation, seriously Ruan let the adults talk, children are to be seen not heard….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh Simon, you’ve figured it all out now, you’ve exposed me…I must go and hang my head in shame now….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    i can see why you don’t want me in the thread, you have no comebacks to speak of.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    der der der der der der……der der der !
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    ok now you have gone from weird to something a bit further down the road…
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Im sorry wasn’t it you who was warning me of all the turmoil I was going to incur do to Andrew’s post ? Why the change of heart ? Obviously you don’t have any balls whatsoever, but I’m curious as to why you were advising me to apologize to Thomas Cock, isn’t this what you wanted to do yourself ?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    james, we had a internet fight. you escalated it by taunting TH. this thing could hurt you going forward, and for one second stop the stupid fucking machismo and consider that.
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    its out there now. the genie is out the bottle
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    see thats how absolutely retarded you actually are, you actually think Thomas Cock’s opinion holds weight. Posting that blog was just about the most retarded thing he could have done, and I even told him that before he posted it. You are the testicleless wonder…… you are in awe of mediocrity….
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    I mean do you actually think this is going to affect me negatively at all ? Thats what you retards just don’t seem to understand, this is the internet, outside of this is real life, you can’t seem to differentiate the two.

    If you piss me off I will bring reality to your doorstep, see its what men used to do before we had web anonymity to hide behind. You say shit about me I feed you my fist, very simple….

    That fact that you think Andrews words hold any weight at all keeps me giggling… even his own followers are turning on him. His credibility is shot and any professional who ever took him serious, after seeing this post will find it very hard to do. He’s a wanker, just like you. Only he had a lot more to loose than you.
    Originally posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )
    thevikingjames edited this topic 4 hours ago.

    ruanniemann says:

    james do you know what i like about you?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    rolandvarriale says:

    his thong?
    Posted 4 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Do I have a choice in this question ? I’m sure you are going to tell me anyway….
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    its your thong james.
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    rolandvarriale says:

    nailed it!!
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    I just ordered my octagon for the backyard. It’s on. We are going to settle this like men used to.

    3:00 O’clock High!
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    roland, dont be vain. its always the thong.
    except when its the butler
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    I even bought gloves to kick your ass!

    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    if you’re getting high i’m coming too.

    although if you’re going to be fighting you may want to consider meth or something a bit harder?
    Posted 3 hours ago. ( permalink )

    Jakes_World says:

    SHIT. I don’t think I can get there by 3.. Can you hold off till tomorrow???
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Oh Andrew, how I wish you weren’t just talking out of your ass as usual. I’d mop the floor with your panzy ass…. someone call the whaaambulance ahead of time please, I don’t think he’ll have internet access to give a full account of the ass kicking on his blog….
    Originally posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )
    thevikingjames edited this topic 2 hours ago.

    Thomas Hunk says:

    shut up or I will sue you!
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    no no you already blogged about it…. No taksey backsies ….
    Posted 2 hours ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Hawwwwwwk !!!!!
    Posted 90 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    did you just say taksey backsies?

    seriously?
    Posted 86 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    adameros says:

    Interesting… Just out of curiosity, I did a back ground check on who I assume is James. James’ MySpace page lists his age as 31, but I don’t think that is automatically updated. But it did say he lives in Texas, and I did find someone with an alias, and two listed birthdays, on saying his 31, the other 33. We can not be sure this is the same James, but it does seem like a good match.

    Some good juicy tid bits of info in the report, if this is the same James.
    Posted 77 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    oh really please share, inquiring minds want to know….
    Posted 75 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    mrhigh says:

    why does this viking dude edit all of his posts? can’t just stick with one version?
    Posted 74 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    i type fast and i make mistakes, sue me….
    Posted 73 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    adameros says:

    What’s your e-mail, I send you the report.
    Posted 71 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    andertho says:

    Maybe that actually is Jimmy in his guns and undies.

    It’s totally believable, and it’s *exactly* how I had pictured him in my mind’s eye.
    Originally posted 71 minutes ago. ( permalink )
    andertho edited this topic 71 minutes ago.

    thevikingjames says:

    i think my email has been posted quite a few times on here…..
    Posted 70 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Thomas Hunk says:

    Do you picture me in my undies Andertho?
    Posted 70 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    Jakes_World says:

    fuck, who let the trolls out??!
    Posted 66 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    wooop whooop whooop whooop
    Posted 66 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    no boys, he’s a deeply ugly little schmeegle lookalike

    with a crusty little patchy beard

    and he likes the pies if you know what i mean
    Posted 66 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    the guy on his web-page is brad pitt in comparison
    Posted 65 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    still yapping, you know, you remind me of Isreal……all that bark, but without US backing you….no bite whatsoever….
    Posted 64 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    now were into anti semitism. nice..
    Posted 61 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    adameros says:

    I haven’t noticed your e-mail posted. fmail it to me and I’ll forward you the report.

    -Adam
    Posted 58 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ososment says:

    wait, what happened to the uncensored hooliganism that was occurring?

    Has everyone kissed and made up or is James and TH still waggling their cocks at each other?
    Posted 6 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ruanniemann says:

    HEY! OS is here, everyone fight and vote!! quickly!
    Posted 5 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    thevikingjames says:

    Jesus adam, its on another page of the same thread you are writing in. Are you telling me you are industrious enough to do a background check on me, and yet to lazy to peel back a page on this thread to get my email address ?
    Posted 3 minutes ago. ( permalink )

    ososment says:

    oh… a background check…

    that’s a it big brother…
    Posted 72 seconds ago. ( permalink )

    Therrr says:

    Hey OS is here!

    Its a sign I tell ya..
    Posted 40 seconds ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

    _steve_gobeil_ says:

    I have a 1000 acres that is available for a game og 12 guage and kbar’s.

    It is woods and corn so the game can go on for hours
    Posted 16 seconds ago. ( permalink )

    Therrr says:

    what’s up with the blindfold?
    Posted 2 seconds ago. ( permalink | edit | delete )

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  28. R. Doyle Bowman says:

    dugg – posted – Fb’ed

  29. Deleting a whole group for the actions of one or two people is more than ridiculous. Yahoo/Flickr has no idea what community means, and they don’t seem to care.

  30. chookless head says:

    Damn fine reason to delete the group. It is apparent that everybody involved has lied about being over 5.

  31. Well, I didn’t contribute to the DMU, but I watched what was going on and had some great entertainment.

    Hope you’ll create somewhere even better to go. LOVE the controversy. Much more interesting than watching TV.

    No threats of violence should ever be tolerated – but sometimes silence is the best way to deal with it!

  32. […] latest? Flickr Nukes DMU!  One of the (if not THE) most active groups on Flickr. […]

  33. James Rhodes says:

    Zzzzzzzz……

  34. Shims says:

    TH … let me know how you feel about The Lightbox. Do you plan to vote photos into it going forward? Do you want it closed?

    If you are amenable we plan to continue using it.

  35. wizum says:

    theresa… I guess I got more than I bargained for on that request LOL… thanks for posting all of that “history”… WOW!

  36. NotUsuallyAnonymous says:

    Having been in a group on the victim end of a DMU raiding party that was just about having a good time, I really pity flickr for the chaos a seriously pissed off DMU is likely to create.

  37. TranceMist says:

    When I came across this (another user’s work deleted elsewhere), I thought of you (and others), Thomas.

    http://m-devillers.ruhosting.nl/wtfisd.swf

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