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	<title>Comments on: 10 Reasons Why I Think the New BART Wi-Fi 20 Year Contract and Plan are a Bad Idea</title>
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		<title>By: Klaatu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaatu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 07:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$30 a month just shows how out of touch with reality BART management is. For another $9, you can get a home DSL line. 
With the continous fare increases, it&#039;s actually getting less and less practical to ride BART as it&#039;s actually often cheaper to drive if more than one person going to the same destination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$30 a month just shows how out of touch with reality BART management is. For another $9, you can get a home DSL line.<br />
With the continous fare increases, it&#8217;s actually getting less and less practical to ride BART as it&#8217;s actually often cheaper to drive if more than one person going to the same destination.</p>
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		<title>By: How San Francisco Commuters Consume Media on Their Way to Work on BART &#124; DiGital Product Review</title>
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		<dc:creator>How San Francisco Commuters Consume Media on Their Way to Work on BART &#124; DiGital Product Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] t&#8206;h&#8206;at&#8206; a&#8206;l&#8206;t&#8206;h&#8206;o&#8206;u&#8206;gh&#8206; a paid wi&#8206;fi service h&#8206;as&#8206; been&#8206; a&#8206;nno&#8206;u&#8206;n&#8206;ce&#8206;..., at prese&#8206;nt it is n&#8206;ot&#8206; in o&#8206;p&#8206;e&#8206;r&#8206;at&#8206;io&#8206;n. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] t&#8206;h&#8206;at&#8206; a&#8206;l&#8206;t&#8206;h&#8206;o&#8206;u&#8206;gh&#8206; a paid wi&#8206;fi service h&#8206;as&#8206; been&#8206; a&#8206;nno&#8206;u&#8206;n&#8206;ce&#8206;&#8230;, at prese&#8206;nt it is n&#8206;ot&#8206; in o&#8206;p&#8206;e&#8206;r&#8206;at&#8206;io&#8206;n. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets do some math:

22 days, the average number of workdays in a month
$30 per month = $1.30 per workday

1) Provides unlimited UMA (universal mobile access) calls for a TMobile customer, which reduces the total bill for those who talk alot.

2) Provides a SIP alternative phone for those who don&#039;t want a regular cell

3) Provides access to do work

4) Provides access to make an online order at a restaurant or pick up tickets (or google search to call them)

Is it a bit much, yes, but depending on the use it can also be a bargain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets do some math:</p>
<p>22 days, the average number of workdays in a month<br />
$30 per month = $1.30 per workday</p>
<p>1) Provides unlimited UMA (universal mobile access) calls for a TMobile customer, which reduces the total bill for those who talk alot.</p>
<p>2) Provides a SIP alternative phone for those who don&#8217;t want a regular cell</p>
<p>3) Provides access to do work</p>
<p>4) Provides access to make an online order at a restaurant or pick up tickets (or google search to call them)</p>
<p>Is it a bit much, yes, but depending on the use it can also be a bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: Catharine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catharine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so do most folks think that wiFi is a bad idea? or that they just don&#039;t want to pay for it?  and if they don&#039;t want to pay for it, who do they think should?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so do most folks think that wiFi is a bad idea? or that they just don&#8217;t want to pay for it?  and if they don&#8217;t want to pay for it, who do they think should?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, a 20 year contract is total BS. The thought of this technology even being around for more than five is unlikely. The cost is also ridiculous - it should be FREE! Your right, it can be subsidized by advertising. Also you are also correct, how are you going to use your laptop standing in a crowded packed car?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yah, a 20 year contract is total BS. The thought of this technology even being around for more than five is unlikely. The cost is also ridiculous &#8211; it should be FREE! Your right, it can be subsidized by advertising. Also you are also correct, how are you going to use your laptop standing in a crowded packed car?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Brooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Brooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. I don&#039;t see how BART hopes to keep riders with their crazy pricing and horrible service. The morons that make the decisions over there need to go visit a city with a real public transit system and take some lessons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. I don&#8217;t see how BART hopes to keep riders with their crazy pricing and horrible service. The morons that make the decisions over there need to go visit a city with a real public transit system and take some lessons.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plus there&#039;s the minor detail that BART is already rolling out cellular service in the tunnels. Even without data in the tunnels, there&#039;s usually enough time for me to sync my RSS feeds via NetNewsWire on my iphone and check my twitter feed. I can then spend the time in the tunnel reading my feeds and new emails until the train hits the next station and I get access again. When the cell networks fully extend into the entire tunnel system, that expensive-assed Wi-Fi will be completely useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus there&#8217;s the minor detail that BART is already rolling out cellular service in the tunnels. Even without data in the tunnels, there&#8217;s usually enough time for me to sync my RSS feeds via NetNewsWire on my iphone and check my twitter feed. I can then spend the time in the tunnel reading my feeds and new emails until the train hits the next station and I get access again. When the cell networks fully extend into the entire tunnel system, that expensive-assed Wi-Fi will be completely useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Plug1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plug1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most of these points would also apply to the silly Wi-Fi enabled MUNI (10 Townsend line) that was launched last summer. especially #5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most of these points would also apply to the silly Wi-Fi enabled MUNI (10 Townsend line) that was launched last summer. especially #5.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a contract everyone will regret down the road. Way down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a contract everyone will regret down the road. Way down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Vicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squid Vicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20 years for any contract is crazy let alone something that is involved with WiFi that isn&#039;t even 5 years old. That doesn&#039;t seem smart, and number 10 just feels right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20 years for any contract is crazy let alone something that is involved with WiFi that isn&#8217;t even 5 years old. That doesn&#8217;t seem smart, and number 10 just feels right.</p>
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