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	<title>Comments on: Who Will Win the Battle for Your Living Room in the Next 24 Months?</title>
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		<title>By: WD TV is better than Apple TV &#171; Raoul Pop</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/10/who-will-win-battle-for-your-living.html/comment-page-1#comment-166902</link>
		<dc:creator>WD TV is better than Apple TV &#171; Raoul Pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not alone in being frustrated with it. Thomas Hawk has written repeatedly against Apple TV, and for the very same reasons I describe in this post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not alone in being frustrated with it. Thomas Hawk has written repeatedly against Apple TV, and for the very same reasons I describe in this post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Private Jets Man</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/10/who-will-win-battle-for-your-living.html/comment-page-1#comment-152956</link>
		<dc:creator>Private Jets Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about wii now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about wii now?</p>
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		<title>By: WD TV is better than Apple TV - Reviews - Raoul Pop</title>
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		<dc:creator>WD TV is better than Apple TV - Reviews - Raoul Pop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not alone in being frustrated with it. Thomas Hawk has written repeatedly against Apple TV, and for the very same reasons I describe in this post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not alone in being frustrated with it. Thomas Hawk has written repeatedly against Apple TV, and for the very same reasons I describe in this post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mainstream Social Media — CJBruce.com</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/10/who-will-win-battle-for-your-living.html/comment-page-1#comment-47084</link>
		<dc:creator>Mainstream Social Media — CJBruce.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mind the whole time. The convergance of television (really just video in general) and the web. With everyone and their mother&#8217;s mother trying to create the next set top box in the living room, this vision is quickly becoming a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mind the whole time. The convergance of television (really just video in general) and the web. With everyone and their mother&#8217;s mother trying to create the next set top box in the living room, this vision is quickly becoming a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mainstream Social Media — Video Army Video Army - Internet Video Marketing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mainstream Social Media — Video Army Video Army - Internet Video Marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mind the whole time. The convergance of television (really just video in general) and the web. With everyone and their mother&#8217;s mother trying to create the next set top box in the living room, this vision is quickly becoming a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mind the whole time. The convergance of television (really just video in general) and the web. With everyone and their mother&#8217;s mother trying to create the next set top box in the living room, this vision is quickly becoming a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TranceMist</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/10/who-will-win-battle-for-your-living.html/comment-page-1#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>TranceMist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Windows Media Center and Xbox?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Have you lost your mind?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Go have a look at AppleTV + ATV Flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows Media Center and Xbox?</p>
<p>Have you lost your mind?</p>
<p>Go have a look at AppleTV + ATV Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 10:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, you left out another obvious Winner:  The PS3.  It has BluRay, a great download service that is just now hitting its stride AND you can get streaming services and bring your own rips to it.  Don&#039;t count this guy out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, you left out another obvious Winner:  The PS3.  It has BluRay, a great download service that is just now hitting its stride AND you can get streaming services and bring your own rips to it.  Don&#8217;t count this guy out.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AppleTV: As Steve Jobs has said numerous times, it&#039;s just a hobby (inasmuch as a company can have a hobby).  The year the AppleTV came out, they were focused on the iPhone and Leopard; this year they&#039;ve been focused on the iPhone 3G and the new laptop manufacturing process.  A lot of things have been neglected because of those, not just the ATV.  You know how successful things can be if Apple chooses to pay attention to them.  ATV so far has not been one of those things, but I don&#039;t think that qualifies it as a flop (Zune or Vista, however, may qualify, if popular opinion is any indication).  A flop would be Apple releasing the next new iPod and nobody bought one for Christmas.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Blu-ray: There is no streaming content that matches Blu-ray&#039;s best features.  You might get 720p or 1080i streaming with Dolby Digital, but no one is streaming full 1080p with uncompressed PCM audio... there&#039;s a world of difference between DD5.1 and uncompressed PCM.  Although, if I could choose, I&#039;d actually be okay with 480p video and uncomp. PCM because, to me, the quality of the soundfield is far more important than the quality of the video (I&#039;m not saying video quality isn&#039;t important; just not as important), but I digress.  BD discs are exactly the same price point as DVDs were when they came out in 1996 and the difference in quality (sound and video resolution) between DVD and BD is just about the same as there was between VHS/broadcast TV and DVD.  Now, as in 1996 with DVDs, most people don&#039;t have a TV/stereo that can really showcase a Blu-ray disc&#039;s content so for those people it&#039;s probably not worth it, and they aren&#039;t the target demographic.  The price will drop as the number of titles and players sold increases.  If I recall correctly, a lot of movie studios refused to go DVD until a million players had been sold (Spielberg, at least, named this number explicitly for Dreamworks&#039; participation).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;OTA HDTV: Get out of the city some time and you&#039;ll realize what you&#039;re smoking.  And I don&#039;t mean even that far.  I live just east of the Hayward hills, less than 25 highway miles from the Bay Bridge, and guess what?  There is no OTA HDTV out here to speak of because all the HD transmission towers are near the Bay or in Stockton/Tracy/Fresno/Fairfield (maybe one in Concord) -- none of them has line of sight to here.  A third of the Bay Area&#039;s population lives in similar situation (though obviously not necessarily this particular geographic location).  Remember, the federal law said analog TV broadcasts had to be shut off when a market reached 80% HD coverage or February 2009, and the SF area is nowhere near 80% coverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AppleTV: As Steve Jobs has said numerous times, it&#8217;s just a hobby (inasmuch as a company can have a hobby).  The year the AppleTV came out, they were focused on the iPhone and Leopard; this year they&#8217;ve been focused on the iPhone 3G and the new laptop manufacturing process.  A lot of things have been neglected because of those, not just the ATV.  You know how successful things can be if Apple chooses to pay attention to them.  ATV so far has not been one of those things, but I don&#8217;t think that qualifies it as a flop (Zune or Vista, however, may qualify, if popular opinion is any indication).  A flop would be Apple releasing the next new iPod and nobody bought one for Christmas.</p>
<p>Blu-ray: There is no streaming content that matches Blu-ray&#8217;s best features.  You might get 720p or 1080i streaming with Dolby Digital, but no one is streaming full 1080p with uncompressed PCM audio&#8230; there&#8217;s a world of difference between DD5.1 and uncompressed PCM.  Although, if I could choose, I&#8217;d actually be okay with 480p video and uncomp. PCM because, to me, the quality of the soundfield is far more important than the quality of the video (I&#8217;m not saying video quality isn&#8217;t important; just not as important), but I digress.  BD discs are exactly the same price point as DVDs were when they came out in 1996 and the difference in quality (sound and video resolution) between DVD and BD is just about the same as there was between VHS/broadcast TV and DVD.  Now, as in 1996 with DVDs, most people don&#8217;t have a TV/stereo that can really showcase a Blu-ray disc&#8217;s content so for those people it&#8217;s probably not worth it, and they aren&#8217;t the target demographic.  The price will drop as the number of titles and players sold increases.  If I recall correctly, a lot of movie studios refused to go DVD until a million players had been sold (Spielberg, at least, named this number explicitly for Dreamworks&#8217; participation).</p>
<p>OTA HDTV: Get out of the city some time and you&#8217;ll realize what you&#8217;re smoking.  And I don&#8217;t mean even that far.  I live just east of the Hayward hills, less than 25 highway miles from the Bay Bridge, and guess what?  There is no OTA HDTV out here to speak of because all the HD transmission towers are near the Bay or in Stockton/Tracy/Fresno/Fairfield (maybe one in Concord) &#8212; none of them has line of sight to here.  A third of the Bay Area&#8217;s population lives in similar situation (though obviously not necessarily this particular geographic location).  Remember, the federal law said analog TV broadcasts had to be shut off when a market reached 80% HD coverage or February 2009, and the SF area is nowhere near 80% coverage.</p>
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		<title>By: Chessa!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chessa!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love netflix and my dvr.  There never seems to be anything on the television when I actually have some time to sit down and watch it.  On Netflix I especially love to have tv series on the queue  and I can&#039;t bear the thought of watching Lost or Mad Men with commercials.  Actually I can&#039;t bear to watch tv commercials at all (what did we ever do before dvr and tivo?) so I am fan of any technology that deletes it from my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love netflix and my dvr.  There never seems to be anything on the television when I actually have some time to sit down and watch it.  On Netflix I especially love to have tv series on the queue  and I can&#8217;t bear the thought of watching Lost or Mad Men with commercials.  Actually I can&#8217;t bear to watch tv commercials at all (what did we ever do before dvr and tivo?) so I am fan of any technology that deletes it from my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of your points Thomas, but don&#039;t necessarily agree with your winners.  Here&#039;s why:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Xbox 360 is a game machine that can act as a very limited extender for Media Center.  Its noisy and it handles limited video formats.  Its definitely a player in the scheme of things, but not one to &quot;take over the living room.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Microsoft MediaCenter has so much potential.  But unfortunately Microsoft doesn&#039;t see that potential for consumers as anything more than a &quot;add-on&quot; for their operating system.  Until they see it as a standalone product, allow for better extenders, DVD Streaming, softsled (not just allowing streaming - but true server-client HTPC and less DRM false alarms it will never be the end-all of the living room either.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I say this as a true HTPC fan and knowing that online video will become more-and-more important to the viewer.  But I think another company will step in and take that lead away from Microsoft unless they stop focusing on the OEM&#039;s and high-end CE guys.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thats my opinion anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of your points Thomas, but don&#8217;t necessarily agree with your winners.  Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p>The Xbox 360 is a game machine that can act as a very limited extender for Media Center.  Its noisy and it handles limited video formats.  Its definitely a player in the scheme of things, but not one to &#8220;take over the living room.&#8221;</p>
<p>Microsoft MediaCenter has so much potential.  But unfortunately Microsoft doesn&#8217;t see that potential for consumers as anything more than a &#8220;add-on&#8221; for their operating system.  Until they see it as a standalone product, allow for better extenders, DVD Streaming, softsled (not just allowing streaming &#8211; but true server-client HTPC and less DRM false alarms it will never be the end-all of the living room either.</p>
<p>I say this as a true HTPC fan and knowing that online video will become more-and-more important to the viewer.  But I think another company will step in and take that lead away from Microsoft unless they stop focusing on the OEM&#8217;s and high-end CE guys.</p>
<p>Thats my opinion anyway.</p>
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