Comments on: If You Put That Picture on the Internet I’ll Call My Lawyer

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:36:23 +0000

You mentioned his daughter was with him? If I was a father, in public with my daughter, and saw someone taking pictures of me and my daughter (no matter her age), I would be rightfully protective and defensive, despite any legal arguments. And you sound just as defensive when called to be responsible for your own actions. You don’t strike me as any better than the guy you describe. I guess it never occurred to you to ask people for their permission before you take thier picture, much less before you use it for your own personal gain (in this case the attention that you so obviously crave). This is almost like entrapment, you have opportunistically placed someone else in a position where you can publicly bash them, when you don’t know anything about the situation that led to it, preaching that you are right ahd he is wrong. Weird that people like you can see things so clearly for everyone else around them (not). And for all of you who say someone has to be polite to you for you to be polite to them, you may not see it but you are perhaps the biggest problem with people in the world as a whole. Personal responsibility is just that, and not dependent on what anyone else does, so stop passing the buck.

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:43:00 +0000

the this is that it is illegal to take someone’s photo if they explicitly said that they don’t want that. so you should respect others and ask for permission next time, it doesn’t hurt to be polite, in fact you you will be getting unexpected reactions(good that is) and that respect that you are looking for mr. photographer.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:37:00 +0000

I was walking into the National Council of La Raza convention here in San Diego a couple of weeks ago with some flyers in my hand calling for the expulsion of Blackwater in our community, when a reactionary, right-wing, nut case in the Minutemen came up to me and within 12″ of my face started videotaping me. I told him to take his camera out of my face and he persisted following me around as I tried to get away form him. When I tried to move his camera out of my face he yelled for the police and attempted to force a “citizen’s arrest. I won’t go into more detail of this horrific situation, but suffice it to say that this law apparently gives crazy people the “right” to abuse the rule by invading people’s “personal space.”
Do you know if there is any rule that protects private citizens’ from having a camera shoved within inches of his or her face?
I understand that for artistic expression it may be lovely to portray individuals in various street scapes, but what about when this law is used by people specifically for harassment? Have we no rights to some amount of “personal space?”?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 15 May 2008 01:04:00 +0000

You think you have this right to go take photos of anyone you please because the law doesn’t explicitly say you can’t, but the fact of the matter is, it is INCREDIBLY RUDE! Not so much if there’s a bunch of people wandering round, but when there’s just one or two people whom you take a unwanted picture of, that is rude. I’m talking like Jeremy Brooks picture. He went up there, knowing he would provoke an angry reaction, took the photo, AND THEN ACTED INDIGNANT that someone should be angry at him! Pathetic. Their angry reaction is completely justified. Your high horse arrogant self-centred “well if you’re rude to me I’ll be rude to you” is hypocritical because you have already been rude to them anyway, so basically, the only way the person can then not have their photo taken is if they let you win. Either way your pathetic ego is stroked. Hoorah for you.

By: Thomas Hawk

Thomas Hawk — Sun, 11 May 2008 08:11:00 +0000

Gone to moderating, hawky? Well, I suppose I could point out crap about the irony between you wanting to take pics all over, and yet limit what people say here.

Joe, I don't limit what people say at all. If you know anything about me it's that I abhor censorship. The only comment I've ever censored was one where someone printed the physical address of a woman in a highly charged and physical debate and I thought it best to remove it to protect the safety of this woman and her kids.

The fact of the matter is that I'm now getting several hundred spam comments a day and I got tired of deleting them one by one. I still have several thousands of them that I need to clean up.

Until Blogger can come up with a better way to deal with spam moderating comments is my only choice. I do approve all non-spam comments.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 11 May 2008 01:04:00 +0000

Gone to moderating, hawky? Well, I suppose I could point out crap about the irony between you wanting to take pics all over, and yet limit what people say here.

Yes, yes, this is your "private space". I'm sure that doesn't make you less of a hypocrite.

Best of luck, no point in playing on a slanted, and mostly retarded field.

Joe

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 11 May 2008 00:33:00 +0000

Wow, carlos. I can see you've clearly got some comprehension problems. Moral high ground comments, etc, and most of your post was pointless and garbled; in fact, I'm pretty sure at this point, you're basically trolling, but what the hell, it's my 50 cents, and I've finished watching videos.

I guess I could point out that I was trying to show how retarded it is to hide behind a piece of paper. Or how you clearly don't understand the patriot act if you think you can do as you are doing.

And of course, you claiming "not to be judge and jury" while putting people's photos online to "teach them a lesson" is a special form of ironic. Special as in I think you ride a shortbus wherever you go.

The real difference between you and I, my little friend, is that you are a clueless asshat, arrested by the police for, basically, being an asshat. I, on the other hand, make attempts to live and work with people, instead of screaming about things and getting my ass handed to me.

Now, now, don't get your panties in a bunch. I'm pretty sure you will get off; hell, in some forms of things, you might even be "right". Woohoo! But, oddly enough, I've been able to have a camera for years, and never had a problem with anyone. You might want to look into that; you are not doing, helping, teaching, or educating anyone; you are simply a sad sad clown at this point.

You don't understand the patriot act, or you wouldn't be saying what you do. Ok, fine, you're ignorant, no big deal. Most of us are, in some form or another.

At the end of the day, if you want to be a big man, a hero, a rights defender, etc., you might want to put more thought into it, rather than blindly following (or in your case, misunderstanding) pieces of paper. Think about the world, not just here; think about people, not just pieces of paper.

Best of luck carlos; and remember, if you do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got.

I hope things take a turn for the better for you; and if, somehow, you end up arrested or in confrontations with people again; stop, take a look in the mirror, and ask yourself if you are handling this the best way you can.

I doubt any of this will sink in; and at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

Joe

Oh, and glad to hear you are only 39; you've got time left to learn!

By: carlos miller

carlos miller — Fri, 09 May 2008 10:06:00 +0000

Joe,

The fact that you put your name at the end of the post still makes you as anonymous as any Joe Blow.

First of all, I am 39, not in my 50s. I am, however, old enough to know that people who go around claiming a higher moral ground usually turn out to be closet hypocrites themselves.

Take you for example, who spouts that just because something is legal doesn’t necessarily make it “right”.

So who the fuck are you, the judge, jury and the teacher? The same things you accuse me of trying to be?

Just because you, Joe fucking Blowhard, says it is not “right”, then it must not be right – despite what the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled?

And I know all about the Patriot Act. I know all about our dwindling rights.

And I also know that if you don’t fight for those rights, you will lose them, which is why I got arrested.

You may think the cops taught me a lesson, but I guarantee you that they will be the ones who ultimately learn the lesson because I am going to beat them in court.

And you don’t have to give me a civics lesson on immigration; I am the son of an immigrant.

But please tell me how I am “misinterpreting” the Constitution?

As I said, the U.S. Supreme court has long ago ruled that documentary photography is protected under the First Amendment.

You see, Joe, I’m not the judge or jury. I am just a citizen who understands my rights as set by the courts, not my rights as how I perceive them to be despite what the law states.

And I don’t go around “clutching pieces of paper” to prove my rights. I use the power of the Internet to inform people of my rights and their rights.

I use my First Amendment rights to try and educate the masses about our legal rights, just as you use your First Amendment rights to try and convince people that the law has no bearing.

That’s the difference between you and I.

By: carlos miller

carlos miller — Fri, 09 May 2008 09:56:00 +0000