Comments on: Is Tagcow the Future of Photo Recognition and Tagging? http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:48:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Torley http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2697 Torley Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:05:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2697 Followup: I ended up sending my whole Flickr stream of 10,000+ images through TagCow and it came out through the other end with what I'd term "pleasantly mixed results". In some cases, the results were excellent, in some, awful, and in most... they were "OK. I blogged about it here:<br /><br /><b> » <a href="http://torley.com/tagcows-free-flickr-auto-tagging-gets-pleasantly-mixed-results-with-second-life-pictures" rel="nofollow">TagCow's free Flickr auto-tagging gets pleasantly mixed results with Second Life pictures</a></b><br /><br />@z@andor: You may've been tagging mine! And if so, thanks! Followup: I ended up sending my whole Flickr stream of 10,000+ images through TagCow and it came out through the other end with what I’d term “pleasantly mixed results”. In some cases, the results were excellent, in some, awful, and in most… they were “OK. I blogged about it here:

» TagCow’s free Flickr auto-tagging gets pleasantly mixed results with Second Life pictures

@z@andor: You may’ve been tagging mine! And if so, thanks!

]]> By: TranceMist http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2698 TranceMist Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:39:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2698 I recently came across <a href="http://pogue.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/devoting-their-lives-to-google/" rel="nofollow">this article</a> by David Pogue, and in turn <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143" rel="nofollow">this video</a> on Human Computation that explains how Google gets people to tag millions of images for them, correctly and effectively, for free.<br /><br />Incidentally, there's a hilarious scene in that video starting at time = 20:30. I recently came across this article by David Pogue, and in turn this video on Human Computation that explains how Google gets people to tag millions of images for them, correctly and effectively, for free.

Incidentally, there’s a hilarious scene in that video starting at time = 20:30.

]]> By: Damien Franco http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2699 Damien Franco Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:56:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2699 From the terms of service:<br />"by posting, uploading, providing or submitting any Submission you are granting TagCow permission to use your Submission in any manner, including, without limitation, the license rights to: copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform,reproduce, edit, translate and reformat your Submission; to publish your name in connection with your Submission; and the right to sublicense such rights to any third party."<br /><br />Is this a rights grab? Without paying for the service how is this company supposed to make money, especially considering they have to pay people to tag the photos? From the terms of service:
“by posting, uploading, providing or submitting any Submission you are granting TagCow permission to use your Submission in any manner, including, without limitation, the license rights to: copy, distribute, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform,reproduce, edit, translate and reformat your Submission; to publish your name in connection with your Submission; and the right to sublicense such rights to any third party.”

Is this a rights grab? Without paying for the service how is this company supposed to make money, especially considering they have to pay people to tag the photos?

]]> By: Z@ndor http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2700 Z@ndor Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:10:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2700 I tagged a lot of pictures of ugly british people and second life screenshots for them I tagged a lot of pictures of ugly british people and second life screenshots for them

]]> By: Wizetux http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2701 Wizetux Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:13:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2701 In an article in the Seattle PI, they asked the founder, Michael Droz, how they were doing the photo tagging. He states that they are using Amazon.com's Mechanical Turk system. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/357177_tagcow01.html In an article in the Seattle PI, they asked the founder, Michael Droz, how they were doing the photo tagging. He states that they are using Amazon.com’s Mechanical Turk system. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/357177_tagcow01.html

]]> By: monsieurgrand02 http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2703 monsieurgrand02 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:32:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2703 Wow. Calling someone a punk while staying "anonymous."<br /><br />Classic.<br /><br />And actually, it hasn't been made clear as to how the company conducts their business. We can only assume that it is done with "cheap labor." Wow. Calling someone a punk while staying “anonymous.”

Classic.

And actually, it hasn’t been made clear as to how the company conducts their business. We can only assume that it is done with “cheap labor.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2704 Anonymous Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:54:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2704 It's Amazon Mechanical Turk, idiot. No image recognition software, no magic, just using cheap labor.<br /><br />That is what Thomas Hawk thinks is Genius !!! What a punk... It’s Amazon Mechanical Turk, idiot. No image recognition software, no magic, just using cheap labor.

That is what Thomas Hawk thinks is Genius !!! What a punk…

]]> By: Thomas Hawk http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2705 Thomas Hawk Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:03:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2705 <i>Perchance, do you know what the "Pole account for new images:" means? I presume it may be a typo of "Poll"?</i><br /><br />Torley, yes, this is my guess. My guess is that the service routinely connects up to the Flickr API to check for new photos to tag for you.<br /><br /><i>Appears that tagcow essentially spams your flickr stream with ads in the descriptions, once they add the tags. Not cool.</i><br /><br />Cyberdex, I don't think this is the case. I think the stream you are looking at is the CEO of the company's. I'm sure he tagged his photos with his company name to build awareness of his company. <br /><br />I didn't find any spam or marketing being tagged to my imagery. Perchance, do you know what the “Pole account for new images:” means? I presume it may be a typo of “Poll”?

Torley, yes, this is my guess. My guess is that the service routinely connects up to the Flickr API to check for new photos to tag for you.

Appears that tagcow essentially spams your flickr stream with ads in the descriptions, once they add the tags. Not cool.

Cyberdex, I don’t think this is the case. I think the stream you are looking at is the CEO of the company’s. I’m sure he tagged his photos with his company name to build awareness of his company.

I didn’t find any spam or marketing being tagged to my imagery.

]]> By: Thomas Hawk http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2706 Thomas Hawk Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:00:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2706 <i>The scariest part is their privacy policy which is indeed "TBD" per their site. Oh and the TBD "legal stuff".</i><br /><br />Aaron in my case I don't care much about their privacy policy. All of the photos that I asked them to tag are public photos of mine on Flickr. 100% of my photos on Flickr are public. To this end I've already made the decision that these photos ought to be shared with the entire world and I wouldn't necessarily expect any privacy from Tagcow with regards to these photos.<br /><br />If I had private photos on the other hand I might not trust them to tagcow. Then again, if I had private photos I certainly wouldn't be uploading them to Flickr as public photos either. The scariest part is their privacy policy which is indeed “TBD” per their site. Oh and the TBD “legal stuff”.

Aaron in my case I don’t care much about their privacy policy. All of the photos that I asked them to tag are public photos of mine on Flickr. 100% of my photos on Flickr are public. To this end I’ve already made the decision that these photos ought to be shared with the entire world and I wouldn’t necessarily expect any privacy from Tagcow with regards to these photos.

If I had private photos on the other hand I might not trust them to tagcow. Then again, if I had private photos I certainly wouldn’t be uploading them to Flickr as public photos either.

]]> By: Tyson Williams http://thomashawk.com/2008/03/is-tagcow-future-of-photo-recognition.html/comment-page-1#comment-2707 Tyson Williams Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:22:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=494#comment-2707 I hate tagging photos but I do it... and if this service can do it for me, it would make my life a bit easier in a long run! I will give it a try, thanks for the info! I hate tagging photos but I do it… and if this service can do it for me, it would make my life a bit easier in a long run! I will give it a try, thanks for the info!

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