Thomas Hawk's Digital Connection

Friday, February 01, 2008

What a Microsoft Acquisition of Yahoo Would Mean For Photos

Media Center Pictures

Well two days ago, in light of the woes coming from Yahoo's earnings conference call, I suggested that maybe now was just the time to pack it up and sell the ship to Microsoft, and it seems like somebody decided to take my advice. Only joking of course.

This morning it looks like Microsoft has offered a $44.6 billion buyout offer for Yahoo! -- which makes all the sense in the world for so many reasons. I'm not going to get into all of those reasons, just read Steve Ballmer's letter for all that. Instead what I'm going to write about today is just what a Yahoo acquisition would mean for one particular area, photography.

1. Flickr comes out a clear winner. Already king of photography at Yahoo after swallowing Yahoo Photos, there is no question that Flickr would become the photosharing site of choice for Microsoft. It would be one of the crown jewels of an acquisition in fact.

More than just having more marketing muscle to push Flickr from an advertising perspective, Microsoft owns the desktop. By creating easy and convenient ways to publish your photos to Flickr directly from the Vista OS, Microsoft would push Flickr from an earlier adopter photogeek sort of site into the mainstream.

Vista already has introduced for the first time photo tagging to the masses, this would tailor well with Flickr whose photo site and especially photo search relies greatly on tagging.

2. Because of Flickr, Yahoo already has better image search than Google. People just don't know it because, well, no one ever tries image search at Yahoo. I think with deeper pockets at Microsoft you'd see more of an emphasis placed on image search and I think you'd find interesting new ways that searching for images from the desktop would point you to Flickr. For instance, I could see Microsoft developing an option when searching for photos on your hard drive that would also point you to Flickr images. So if I was looking for a photo of a tree in my photos and couldn't find one I wanted, the OS might suggest I search for one on Flickr as well.

3. Flickr would be better integrated in Microsoft's Media Center platform. Media Center is slowly but surely positioning itself to be the media delivery system of the home of the future. With XBox 360 extender units, Media Center allows you to stream all of your media (TV, photos, music, videos, etc.) throughout your home.

Years ago Bill Gates designed his home to be the prototypical home of the future. A big part of this home of the future were plasma displays that showcased great art throughout his home. Media Center is *perfect* for this. I've been using Media Center to showcase my own art and that of others on a plasma in my living room for years now.

The thing about Media Center though is that it shines best when it has *spectacular* content running across it. By integrating with Flickr, Media Center would now be able to use Flickr's interestingness algorithm to serve up photos directly to Media Center PCs. Want to gather the family around the set to watch the greatest photos of the Grand Canyon because you are going on a trip there next month? A Media Center / Flickr combo would be perfect for this.

4. Microsoft could represent the path for Flickr to finally offer their top pros access to the stock photography market. Kinda sorta. One of the things that Microsoft would potentially bring to the table for photos would be Corbis, the world's second largest stock photo agency behind Getty Images. Although Corbis is not a Microsoft property it is owned by Bill Gates 100%. Recently Corbis tried to start a sort of hybrid stock photo thing for the amateur with their introduction of "Snap Village." With Flickr under his control, Microsoft could use Flickr as an onramp to Snap Village allowing better traction to move the top amateur photos being taken today into the "for sale" category.

If this happened this would represent a serious threat to Getty's current dominance in the stock photography business.

5. Microsoft recently bought Vizrea, former Microsoft exec Mike Toutonghi's photo sharing site. There was also recent talk based on a job posting that Microsoft was looking to hire an exec to run a team to create a photo/video sharing site to compete with Flickr. I'd guess that Mike and his team would go to work for the Flickr team or elsewhere within Microsoft if they didn't want to work with photos anymore.

6. Microsoft could use the audience at Flickr, perhaps the largest audience of photo hobbyists in the world, to help promote it's new JPEGXR or HD Photo format. By promoting this new format to the Flickr crowd, this would help spread the word about it's potential and encourage greater adoption.

7. Microsoft could use Flickr's library of images, perhaps the largest library or organized and categorized imagery in the world, to advance their research with their HD View research. HD View is emerging technology being worked on at Microsoft that allows impressive panoramas to be created by stitching photos together. By combining mapping and geotagging, Microsoft could look to create new ways for collaboration to take place by merging Flickr photos together. This technology is still a bit of a ways off, but controlling the largest library of organized, tagged, and especially geotagged imagery on the internet, Microsoft could potentially do some pretty interesting things with these photos.

Interestingly enough, Stanford Professor Marc Levoy showed Robert Scoble and I technology similar to this first hand when we visited him down at Stanford last fall.

18 Comments:

Anonymous the marquise de sade said...

You must be psychic Thomas...

But seriously:

1) Are you going to work for Microsoft or something? What does this mean to the future of your Zooomr baby?

2) I think the acquisition of Flickr would eventually be its demise, at least in the sense of it being (pretty much) an agnostic environment. Microsoft loves to kill any competition or possibility of integration in their quest for world domination by enforcing closed standards in its technology. Microsoft is already too big with too much under its control. I believe without any real competition in that space the inertia created by a Microsoft acquisition would pretty much kill the Flickr draw for people like myself. Any time you bind a service to a particular operating system model (even in a tangential way) it seems to be a recipe for lameness.

You think Flickr censorship is bad now, just wait until Microsoft gets a hold of it. Maybe this could be just what Zooomr needs. Remember Microsoft LOVES the Chinese government and doesn't exactly hold the principles of freedom of speech and human rights in high regard. Just GOOGLE "Microsoft censorship" and you'll see what I mean.

Don't let the fun toys they build blind you to the bigger strategic dangers they present to a free thriving internet. As I type this on Windows Vista I only wish there were more competition in the OS space, with more interoperability, without having to revert to Apple or Linux.

10:42 AM  
Blogger Cassandra said...

Boy oh Boy did you call this one!

10:43 AM  
Anonymous iluvpepero said...

thomas, so you were the one loading up on the yhoo feb call options! ;-)

11:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This might also be part of the reason why Apple TV Take 2 is delayed by 2 weeks. Not sure if Apple wants to be writing a check to MS each month...

12:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While all the people unhappy with the merge can migrate to Zooomr, right? :D

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Ryan G said...

Though I wouldn't consider myself 'anti-microsoft,' ever since I started using a mac last year, I realized I would probably never use a microsoft product again, except browser testing in IE via parallels.To me, apple just does it better... so when I heard this news this morning, I immediately got worried about flickr as its really the only yahoo product I use.

One of the greatest things yahoo did for flickr when they took over was keep their hands off... I wonder now, will Microsoft do the same? I hope so, and I'll start here by asking Microsoft, if your deal goes through PLEASE DON'T RUIN FLICKR!!! After trying out the mess that is hotmail, Live, and MSN, I'm scared for the future flickr.

Good for microsoft..maybe. Good for users? I guess only time will tell...

1:19 PM  
Anonymous Cory Miller said...

My Good Lord...

WTF?! You're the only Photographer on the planet who's a happy Windows User!!!!

4:39 PM  
Blogger Fati.m.a said...

HI, I agree with marquis de Sade, Flickr is free and that is one of the major reasons that peple are Flickrin away! Miscrosoft does impose standardisation restrictions and that just kills the fun of freedom!
I fear for Flickr, but one never knows what just might turn up!

11:37 PM  
Blogger Patrick Dodds said...

@ marquise de sade: Were you posting with irony when you said to google a term to find out about MSFT censorship? Erm, Google - happy to play with the Chinese gov. entirely on Gov. terms. Or did I get that wrong?

3:32 AM  
Anonymous the marquise de sade said...

"@ marquise de sade: Were you posting with irony when you said to google a term to find out about MSFT censorship? Erm, Google - happy to play with the Chinese gov. entirely on Gov. terms. Or did I get that wrong?"

HAHAHAH yes! I'm glad someone caught that I mean to add some sort of "irony" tag but didn't before I posted.

The fact is ALL corporations are required to do what is best for the bottom line and eschew any concerns for morality, human rights etc. All internet companies are going to censor when it is in their financial best interests. However, I believe Microsoft is way worse than any of the others for one reason: they're not only a huge internet presence they also have a stranglehold on the PC OS market. Think about the sheer potential of the Chinese consumer market and you can understand the greed that drives these policies.

In addition, Microsoft is known for censoring messages (to some degree) sent on its MSN Messenger service, in addition to censoring search results in its search engine for competing technologies and products. Google doesn't do this because it doesn't need to - at least they're honest enough to have people bribe them to get the best search placement (a bit mellodramatic, i know). Personally, I think Microsoft will lead the way in censorship in the future not only for China but eventually the US.

Take a look at what your tax dollars are going to support, a bill that could be interpreted as the death of free speech in the US:

http://www.sixhoursaweek.com/2008/01/homegrown-terrorism-bill-news.html#more

7:52 AM  
Anonymous Krista Neher said...

This is the first blog post that I have come across from a Photographer that is actually positive about the acquisition.

While there is tremendous potential I think that history would show that Microsoft's acquisitions have not had the best results (Hotmail.com, driveoff.com to name a few).

Did anyone else celebrate Vista's 1 year anniversary on the 30th?

10:12 AM  
Blogger TranceMist said...

When I heard that MSFT may be buying YHOO my first thought was that this may be the end of my time on Flickr.

9:45 PM  
Anonymous Quikboy said...

@marquise de sade:

Why would Microsoft buy Y!'s properties, and just destroy some of the things that made Y! at least a little successful? You must be an idiot to think MS will just buy a site for so much money, and kill it. There's a ton of good opportunity with Flickr, and practically any company knows better than to mess with it bad, and hurt the user base.

Yahoo! is the one that loves censorship. They're the ones that got Chinese journalists in jail. Though both Google and Microsoft also HAVE to censor their stuff in China, or not be in it at all.

And Flickr is a website. If you don't like what they have to offer, move on.

As for everybody else, assuming the worst from Microsoft is dumb. Like Thomas, I see some good things that could come with the merge. Where the best of Y! + the best of WinLive/MSN = a more cohesive web services/content site.

Y!'s has great properties, large user base (also in Asia), among some great site designers and awesome partnerships (AT&T, etc.). Combine that with WinLive's pretty more robust services they've been offering, Microsoft's latest technology, integration with some of Microsoft's cooler products, and you've got one heck of a site.

Can't wait to see what the merger will bring together. Hopefully pro accounts on Flickr get cheaper, just to win users over.

11:08 PM  
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  我并没有死广州货架,原来我的心是在右边仓储货架,而是不是左边货架厂。所以在那穿胸一剑之下我并没有死南京货架

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  一定快有什么事情发生了工作桌

  剑还是那美丽的剑Google左侧排名,如果再加上一道剑光吹塑机,就会形成剑的艺术色带,武学的艺术电源插座

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  我不再说话手摇手电筒,因为我不知道说什么手板,我知道我十年前就开始找我毛巾布,发现我没有死就开始找我磁钢。我不死促销台,他心不安模具钢材

  他说时尚配饰:拿出你的刀筛网

  我说齿轮泵:我已无刀天使花房,命托辊,亦可有可无色丁

  他盯着我广告衫,握剑的手越来越紧钢坯,我知道那道美丽的剑光可能随时发出过滤网。在那美丽过后疏水阀,我的生命将画上句号胸章

  阳光照在了刀上发热管,反射到他的脸上手机耳机。他发现了那把刀螺杆,我的刀插销,宝刀蝴蝶,没有鞘的刀工具包

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  高手的悲哀太阳伞
  我握紧了刀桥架,我看着他的眼tpr,已经不再像十年前那样明亮了钢丝

  他的剑划出柴油发电机组,划出一道美丽的剑光护栏。我想围栏,这十年他大概在不停地使自己的剑光更美围栏

  我的刀也出了隔离网。简单的动作隔离网,一刀刺进了他的胸网片。那道美丽的光忽然停止网片,停在我的衣服上南京货架

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3:38 PM  
Blogger 君晓网络 said...

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  我并没有死广州货架,原来我的心是在右边仓储货架,而是不是左边货架厂。所以在那穿胸一剑之下我并没有死南京货架

  是一阵暴雨把我冲醒了货架公司。听说雨是上天的眼泪深圳货架,也许这天又有人死在那美丽的剑光之下吧服装货架!我张开嘴巴托盘,任雨水打进我的嘴托盘,直冲我的胃塑料托盘。我的伤口又开始流血塑料托盘,但已经不痛了木托盘。试问:仓储笼一个心已经死了的人仓储笼,肉体上的疼痛又算得了什么呢仓储笼?我知道我的刀再练一百年也无法那么美丽仓储笼,那么恨托盘,而且永远别想杀了他托盘

  我退出江湖了手推车,我没有通知江湖上的朋友们静音手推车,并来一个什么金盆洗手静音手推车,因为我的朋友们差不多都被他杀了置物架。我悄悄的走了置物架,隐进了山林之中堆垛架。俨然一个世外高人的样子堆垛架,每天一壶绿茶登高车,放在身边的几上登高车,然后或盯着一朵白云超市手推车,或盯着一片树叶物流手推车,或双目紧闭物流台车。我的刀在玉盆中泡了七七四十九天角钢货架,已经没有血腥味了角钢货架。然后我把它放在我的屋顶轻型货架,任它风吹雨打轻型货架

  十年就这年过去了中型货架。为何今天天忽然想起那柄剑中型货架,那道剑光重型货架?而且内心为什么如此不安重型货架?不应该是这样的仓库货架,对于一个喝了十年绿茶的人来说服装货架,面对死上海货架,也已不再惧怕精品货架,不再不安苏州货架,但今天又为何如此呢托盘货架

  莫非是他青岛货架,和他的剑库房货架,加上他的剑光沈阳货架。我已不问江湖之事天津货架,想他十年前也应该坐上武林盟主的位子了杭州货架,一个武林中人做了武林盟主山东货架,这一生还有什么要求的呢文件柜

  我不停的喝着绿茶工具柜。绿茶静心工具柜。但此时怎么也静不下来零件柜。茶已尽工作台。平时茶尽之时工作台,正也是日落之时工作桌

  一定快有什么事情发生了工作桌

  剑还是那美丽的剑Google左侧排名,如果再加上一道剑光吹塑机,就会形成剑的艺术色带,武学的艺术电源插座

  我问反光背心:为何还来找我滚针轴承,我已在十年之前就退出江湖了夜光粉

  他说文化石:因为你没死缎带,因为我没有对手风火轮

  我说激光打标机:十年前已不是你的对手平衡机,何况现在十年未动刀大功率led

  他说磁力泵:放眼天下梯子,只有你一个人是我的对手网眼袋,也只你一个人对我的威胁无尘布

  我不再说话手摇手电筒,因为我不知道说什么手板,我知道我十年前就开始找我毛巾布,发现我没有死就开始找我磁钢。我不死促销台,他心不安模具钢材

  他说时尚配饰:拿出你的刀筛网

  我说齿轮泵:我已无刀天使花房,命托辊,亦可有可无色丁

  他盯着我广告衫,握剑的手越来越紧钢坯,我知道那道美丽的剑光可能随时发出过滤网。在那美丽过后疏水阀,我的生命将画上句号胸章

  阳光照在了刀上发热管,反射到他的脸上手机耳机。他发现了那把刀螺杆,我的刀插销,宝刀蝴蝶,没有鞘的刀工具包

  刀已在我手中点钞机,刀还是那把刀配电箱,人却已不是那个人流苏,因为心不是那颗心沙滩巾

  他为了杀我竟找了我十年氯化镁,而为了和我比武竟帮我从屋顶拿下我的刀来双面胶带,并放在我的手中碳纤维。我忽然发现排线,他也变了汽车座垫,他在后悔十年前将所有高手都杀绝珍珠奶茶

  高手的悲哀太阳伞
  我握紧了刀桥架,我看着他的眼tpr,已经不再像十年前那样明亮了钢丝

  他的剑划出柴油发电机组,划出一道美丽的剑光护栏。我想围栏,这十年他大概在不停地使自己的剑光更美围栏

  我的刀也出了隔离网。简单的动作隔离网,一刀刺进了他的胸网片。那道美丽的光忽然停止网片,停在我的衣服上南京货架

  他说北京货架:这也是艺术北京货架,杀人的艺术北京货架,想不到你十年不动刀还懂这个艺术仓储货架

  我说仓储货架:因为我不想再让你痛苦了广州货架

  他说广州货架:谢谢货架厂

  我走了货架公司。我头也不回的走了塑料托盘。没有取回我的刀塑料托盘,因为我觉得它在我身边已经没用塑料托盘,我后悔我十年前为什么不扔了它塑料托盘?我听到了尸体倒下的声音塑料托盘。我流泪了塑料托盘,我真的不想杀他仓储笼,十年前不想仓储笼,十年后也不想仓储笼,因为我下山时答应过师父仓储笼,一切让着他仓储笼

  我叹了一口气仓储笼。远去仓储笼

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