Comments on: Barack Obama is a Hypocrite http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:09:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jimmy http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-27082 Jimmy Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:33:59 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-27082 There is absolutely nothing good about pot use. People use it to get high and as a substitute for character to get them through every kind of circumstance. Instead of developing and strengthening traits of patience, temperence, and other legitimate aspects of what is is to be a strong in spirit person, they get loaded and the circumstance passes. They are weaker for not exercising. Presently they become a withered branch. Fruitless. And because of thier dependency, they are a part of the great evil that is the drug world. All the corruption and crime. The inevitable destruction of their souls. That's why the bible says that drug abusers are in no way going to inherit the kingdom of Heaven. You don't believe it? then you are among the lost. The Lord will deliver you from your use. But you must first realize that it is sin and confess it. Don't rationalize. You must repent or the sin goes with you to the grave and beyond. When you get there you will have everlasting regret. Also, there is a lot more genuine satisfaction in overcoming than in being subject to drug use. It is freedom. There is absolutely nothing good about pot use. People use it to get high and as a substitute for character to get them through every kind of circumstance. Instead of developing and strengthening traits of patience, temperence, and other legitimate aspects of what is is to be a strong in spirit person, they get loaded and the circumstance passes. They are weaker for not exercising. Presently they become a withered branch. Fruitless. And because of thier dependency, they are a part of the great evil that is the drug world. All the corruption and crime. The inevitable destruction of their souls. That’s why the bible says that drug abusers are in no way going to inherit the kingdom of Heaven. You don’t believe it? then you are among the lost. The Lord will deliver you from your use. But you must first realize that it is sin and confess it. Don’t rationalize. You must repent or the sin goes with you to the grave and beyond. When you get there you will have everlasting regret. Also, there is a lot more genuine satisfaction in overcoming than in being subject to drug use. It is freedom.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3773 Anonymous Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:48:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3773 Not that what I am about to say is solid fact, but let's face it...if Obama came out and SAID "I support decriminalization of marijuana..." and it was down to himself and...let's say McCain...For all the people in the US that DON'T SMOKE, and for all of those who think all the terrible things about marijuana due to those anti-drug commericals, those people would feel compelled to vote for the other party, or rather, not vote at all. Obama has made statements before about marijuana use, and that he does not think it should be a crime that lands a person in jail...and although hypocritical, you have to understand that he is trying to win here...win the vote from potheads, from anti-drug frumps in the midwest...everyone. Sooo let him say what he will, but I am pretty sure that he agrees with the rest of us tokers...THERE SHOULDN'T BE A SINGLE MARIJUANA SMOKER SITTING IN PRISION RIGHT NOW...OR EVER. :) Not that what I am about to say is solid fact, but let’s face it…if Obama came out and SAID “I support decriminalization of marijuana…” and it was down to himself and…let’s say McCain…For all the people in the US that DON’T SMOKE, and for all of those who think all the terrible things about marijuana due to those anti-drug commericals, those people would feel compelled to vote for the other party, or rather, not vote at all. Obama has made statements before about marijuana use, and that he does not think it should be a crime that lands a person in jail…and although hypocritical, you have to understand that he is trying to win here…win the vote from potheads, from anti-drug frumps in the midwest…everyone. Sooo let him say what he will, but I am pretty sure that he agrees with the rest of us tokers…THERE SHOULDN’T BE A SINGLE MARIJUANA SMOKER SITTING IN PRISION RIGHT NOW…OR EVER. :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3774 Anonymous Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:23:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3774 With everything going on in the world, this is really your issue?<br /><br />Anyway, while I'm unable to load the Washington Times story, I understand that now, Obama *does* support the decriminalization of pot. With everything going on in the world, this is really your issue?

Anyway, while I’m unable to load the Washington Times story, I understand that now, Obama *does* support the decriminalization of pot.

]]> By: Shawn Oster http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3775 Shawn Oster Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:40:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3775 Nothing like a bit of chumming the political waters :)<br /><br />I applaud your idealogical stance on politics, I hope someday there is actually someone running that you can vote for that's <b>not</b> a hyprocrite. The sad fact is that everyone, every single person, including our founding fathers, including yourself, including me, are hyprocrits.<br /><br />Me, I'd rather vote for a slightly hyprocrtical Obama or Clinton whose stance I basically agree with rather than a non-hyprocrit who I completely disagree with such as Huckabee or McCain. Nothing like a bit of chumming the political waters :)

I applaud your idealogical stance on politics, I hope someday there is actually someone running that you can vote for that’s not a hyprocrite. The sad fact is that everyone, every single person, including our founding fathers, including yourself, including me, are hyprocrits.

Me, I’d rather vote for a slightly hyprocrtical Obama or Clinton whose stance I basically agree with rather than a non-hyprocrit who I completely disagree with such as Huckabee or McCain.

]]> By: Patrick Dodds http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3776 Patrick Dodds Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3776 A thought provoking post Thomas - thanks for having the courage to express a view that clearly was never going to go down well with everybody. The concept of having to say certain things in order to get elected is obviously an old one (and seems to apply to a belief in god as much as marijuana use), but, as you indicate, just because it is the convention doesn't make it right. It is a shame that the internet hasn't wrought as much change in the old media (tv and newspapers in particular) as had been hoped, I think, and a few powerful individuals and conglomerates still dictate the political agenda in the developed world on issues such as this. However, at least the debate continues. A thought provoking post Thomas – thanks for having the courage to express a view that clearly was never going to go down well with everybody. The concept of having to say certain things in order to get elected is obviously an old one (and seems to apply to a belief in god as much as marijuana use), but, as you indicate, just because it is the convention doesn’t make it right. It is a shame that the internet hasn’t wrought as much change in the old media (tv and newspapers in particular) as had been hoped, I think, and a few powerful individuals and conglomerates still dictate the political agenda in the developed world on issues such as this. However, at least the debate continues.

]]> By: Bob http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3777 Bob Sun, 27 Jan 2008 03:03:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3777 <i>If you already have two strikes and are caught simply possessing marijuana you can go to jail for a very long time.</i><br /><br />Marijuana possession is not a felony in most jurisdictions (including California) and therefore not a third strike. If you already have two strikes and are caught simply possessing marijuana you can go to jail for a very long time.

Marijuana possession is not a felony in most jurisdictions (including California) and therefore not a third strike.

]]> By: the marquise de sade http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3778 the marquise de sade Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:00:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3778 Oh man here we go with the puritanical BS, but first Thomas you were up rather late, or early, its hard to tell.<br /><br />"Legalization as we all know can be a slippery slope... but IMHO it is not an answer to some of society's ills as you make it seem. It is a much deeper issue than that. We all want to see a better society for everyone, but the solution to these issues are at the soul level. It seems a majority of pot users consume it for the high and escape from reality not medicine. For that majority, I think its a deeper issue as to a hole in their life they are trying to fill with drugs like some do with alcohol, material things, you name it. We all are guilty of it in some fashion just different vices. The point is instead of legalizing how about helping people in much deeper ways. In turn, they don't need to look to pot or whatever vice for an escape or high and have a better life because of it. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but thats ok... "<br /><br />Ok, so who among us doesn't have a way to "escape" reality? And who are you to say that is a bad thing? I have news for you, there are many things besides pot that are much more effectively used as an escape from reality for the masses, and now I shall list them out for you:<br /><br />1) Religion<br />2) Sports<br />3) Television<br />4) Consumerism/Shopping<br />5) Sex and Sexual Compulsions<br /><br />Shall I go on? I'd wager you participate in at least three of these reality-bending activities. In my opinion, organized religion and sports are as much an escape from reality and are just as damaging to the future of humankind (if not moreso) than any drug. Think we're going to see these things regulated? No. Hell, at least with pot you actually think about things instead of mindlessly listening to a minister or the announcer at a sporting event. <br /><br />I used to be a skydiver. During my prep time and time in the air I thought about nothing in "reality", all I thought about was those moments of freedom when it was just me and nature and physics at 120mph. It was my escape. I forgot about the "realities" of war, death, corruption, destruction and all the evil things "reality" has to offer. Pot is much the same. Who are you to tell me how to conduct my life, what to do and what to put into my body? A corollary to this are strip clubs - as a feminist I find them highly distateful and really kinda gross, everyone involved (customers proprietors and dancers) seem to be exploiting somebody, but I'm not advocating that they be shut down or made illegal.<br /><br />Rant over.... Oh man here we go with the puritanical BS, but first Thomas you were up rather late, or early, its hard to tell.

“Legalization as we all know can be a slippery slope… but IMHO it is not an answer to some of society’s ills as you make it seem. It is a much deeper issue than that. We all want to see a better society for everyone, but the solution to these issues are at the soul level. It seems a majority of pot users consume it for the high and escape from reality not medicine. For that majority, I think its a deeper issue as to a hole in their life they are trying to fill with drugs like some do with alcohol, material things, you name it. We all are guilty of it in some fashion just different vices. The point is instead of legalizing how about helping people in much deeper ways. In turn, they don’t need to look to pot or whatever vice for an escape or high and have a better life because of it. I’m sure I’ll get flamed for this but thats ok… “

Ok, so who among us doesn’t have a way to “escape” reality? And who are you to say that is a bad thing? I have news for you, there are many things besides pot that are much more effectively used as an escape from reality for the masses, and now I shall list them out for you:

1) Religion
2) Sports
3) Television
4) Consumerism/Shopping
5) Sex and Sexual Compulsions

Shall I go on? I’d wager you participate in at least three of these reality-bending activities. In my opinion, organized religion and sports are as much an escape from reality and are just as damaging to the future of humankind (if not moreso) than any drug. Think we’re going to see these things regulated? No. Hell, at least with pot you actually think about things instead of mindlessly listening to a minister or the announcer at a sporting event.

I used to be a skydiver. During my prep time and time in the air I thought about nothing in “reality”, all I thought about was those moments of freedom when it was just me and nature and physics at 120mph. It was my escape. I forgot about the “realities” of war, death, corruption, destruction and all the evil things “reality” has to offer. Pot is much the same. Who are you to tell me how to conduct my life, what to do and what to put into my body? A corollary to this are strip clubs – as a feminist I find them highly distateful and really kinda gross, everyone involved (customers proprietors and dancers) seem to be exploiting somebody, but I’m not advocating that they be shut down or made illegal.

Rant over….

]]> By: Thomas Hawk http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3779 Thomas Hawk Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:00:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3779 <i>TH do you smoke pot? I'm not talking back as a teenager... now as a responsible adult (not for 'medicinal reasons either'). </i><br /><br />Casper, would you ask a woman who supported abortion rights if she's had one?<br /><br />The question is entirely irrelevant to the debate. One does not have to be pot user to support legalization. I'm not going to answer it.<br /><br />Last year in Oakland there were 126 homicides in the City. 126 homicides. Most of them black. Most of them involving the illegal drug trade. Turf wars. <br /><br />Marijuana as a drug is no worse for people than alcohol or tobacco. In fact, I've read studies that say that when high on pot people drive their cars better than when drunk on alcohol. I'm not advocating anyone drive while stoned or drunk for sure. I'm just saying that the drug's effect on society is certainly no worse than alcohol. <br /><br />Personally I'd like to take this drug away from the drug dealers that sell it on the streets of Oakland. I'd like to remove one more economic product for them to sell. I don't think we as a society would be any worse. I'd also like to see it taxed like alcohol is and use the money raised combined with the money saved from prosecuting marijuana cases put in other places where it really can make a difference.<br /><br />If alcohol were illegal and pot was legal and drug dealers were selling vodka by the truckloads, I'd probably be just as pro alcohol legalization as I am marijuana.<br /><br />People will use mind altering substances whether legal or not. Why squander our economic resources wasting it on arresting the marijuana trade and fueling cash to the illegal drug economy that is responsible for so much violence in places like Oakland? Legalize it. Take the economic incentive out of it for drug dealers and raise a hell of a lot of money to do a lot more good.<br /><br />Think about it. Who doesn't want marijuana legalized and who is funding the PR war behind keeping it illegal. Which Anheuser Busch CEO made $6.5 million in personal compensation in 2006? TH do you smoke pot? I’m not talking back as a teenager… now as a responsible adult (not for ‘medicinal reasons either’).

Casper, would you ask a woman who supported abortion rights if she’s had one?

The question is entirely irrelevant to the debate. One does not have to be pot user to support legalization. I’m not going to answer it.

Last year in Oakland there were 126 homicides in the City. 126 homicides. Most of them black. Most of them involving the illegal drug trade. Turf wars.

Marijuana as a drug is no worse for people than alcohol or tobacco. In fact, I’ve read studies that say that when high on pot people drive their cars better than when drunk on alcohol. I’m not advocating anyone drive while stoned or drunk for sure. I’m just saying that the drug’s effect on society is certainly no worse than alcohol.

Personally I’d like to take this drug away from the drug dealers that sell it on the streets of Oakland. I’d like to remove one more economic product for them to sell. I don’t think we as a society would be any worse. I’d also like to see it taxed like alcohol is and use the money raised combined with the money saved from prosecuting marijuana cases put in other places where it really can make a difference.

If alcohol were illegal and pot was legal and drug dealers were selling vodka by the truckloads, I’d probably be just as pro alcohol legalization as I am marijuana.

People will use mind altering substances whether legal or not. Why squander our economic resources wasting it on arresting the marijuana trade and fueling cash to the illegal drug economy that is responsible for so much violence in places like Oakland? Legalize it. Take the economic incentive out of it for drug dealers and raise a hell of a lot of money to do a lot more good.

Think about it. Who doesn’t want marijuana legalized and who is funding the PR war behind keeping it illegal. Which Anheuser Busch CEO made $6.5 million in personal compensation in 2006?

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3780 Anonymous Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3780 <i>I've known many successful accomplished individuals who smoke pot regularly. This is the type of sterotype that the anti-pot lobby would like you to believe.</i><br /><br />This is the type of stereotype that I've <i>observed</i>. Your mileage may vary.<br /><br />Just saying. I’ve known many successful accomplished individuals who smoke pot regularly. This is the type of sterotype that the anti-pot lobby would like you to believe.

This is the type of stereotype that I’ve observed. Your mileage may vary.

Just saying.

]]> By: Mark http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/barack-obama-is-hypocrite.html/comment-page-1#comment-3781 Mark Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=681#comment-3781 casper: Why would you assume that someone who is pro legalization of marijuhana a user? Would you also say that only a woman can be pro women's rights? That only a black person can be against slavery? You seem to assume that people care only for their own freedoms.<br /><br />For the record: I am very much for the legalization of marijuhana and I've never smoked (cigarettes or weed) and don't intend to. Hell, I've never been drunk in my whole life and I'm 32! casper: Why would you assume that someone who is pro legalization of marijuhana a user? Would you also say that only a woman can be pro women’s rights? That only a black person can be against slavery? You seem to assume that people care only for their own freedoms.

For the record: I am very much for the legalization of marijuhana and I’ve never smoked (cigarettes or weed) and don’t intend to. Hell, I’ve never been drunk in my whole life and I’m 32!

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