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	<title>Comments on: Apple&#8217;s iDongle Still Falls Short</title>
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		<title>By: Boston Web Design</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/apples-idongle-still-falls-short.html/comment-page-1#comment-535832</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston Web Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings! Thank you for your thoughtful post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings! Thank you for your thoughtful post!</p>
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		<title>By: Tinpanharry</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/apples-idongle-still-falls-short.html/comment-page-1#comment-3934</link>
		<dc:creator>Tinpanharry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many good comments here and I know I am coming in late to the conversation.   Here are my two cents worth.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do think the future is from the web, not the DVR, but right now a PVR is the simplest way to easily record and watch the shows I want.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have used bittorrent, apple tv, sage and Beyond TV, and own 2 Dish DVR units.  My satellite tv provider makes it happen so much easier.  Convenience is what I am paying for. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That being said, I would LOVE replace my satellite providers monthly DVR fees for something else.  But nothing is as easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many good comments here and I know I am coming in late to the conversation.   Here are my two cents worth.   </p>
<p>I do think the future is from the web, not the DVR, but right now a PVR is the simplest way to easily record and watch the shows I want.  </p>
<p>I have used bittorrent, apple tv, sage and Beyond TV, and own 2 Dish DVR units.  My satellite tv provider makes it happen so much easier.  Convenience is what I am paying for. </p>
<p>That being said, I would LOVE replace my satellite providers monthly DVR fees for something else.  But nothing is as easy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Phat Photographer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Phat Photographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Post Thomas! I don&#039;t necessarily agree but that&#039;s cool. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have referenced your post on a post on my blog here: http://phatphotographer.com/?p=77</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Post Thomas! I don&#8217;t necessarily agree but that&#8217;s cool. </p>
<p>I have referenced your post on a post on my blog here: <a href="http://phatphotographer.com/?p=77" rel="nofollow">http://phatphotographer.com/?p=77</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, say what you will about the future... but... I called this thing the iDongle over a year ago and we&#039;re living in the here and now today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As it stands today, my top two ways (and I&#039;m an early adopter) of getting content to my television are through a DVR and through Netflix.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;AppleTV can not accomodate either of these methods at present.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;memeslider,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do hear what you are saying though and actually what you are saying makes me think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could actually envision a future in my life where I cancelled my broadcast service and just existed on a diet of Netflix and OTA HDTV.  But it will still be convenient for me to have a DVD player on the unit connected to my HDTV extender unit and a DVR to capture my OTA content to stream to my TV box device.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I still think the XBox 360 does a better job at this than AppleTV and it is also a kick ass gaming console.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, iTunes is still the backbone of the AppleTV experience, and as long as iTunes does such a horrible job with my media library --  Apple *please* let your users disable gapless playback and album art as an option -- it&#039;s difficult for me to get excited about building a strategy around AppleTV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, say what you will about the future&#8230; but&#8230; I called this thing the iDongle over a year ago and we&#8217;re living in the here and now today.</p>
<p>As it stands today, my top two ways (and I&#8217;m an early adopter) of getting content to my television are through a DVR and through Netflix.</p>
<p>AppleTV can not accomodate either of these methods at present.  </p>
<p>memeslider,</p>
<p>I do hear what you are saying though and actually what you are saying makes me think.</p>
<p>I could actually envision a future in my life where I cancelled my broadcast service and just existed on a diet of Netflix and OTA HDTV.  But it will still be convenient for me to have a DVD player on the unit connected to my HDTV extender unit and a DVR to capture my OTA content to stream to my TV box device.  </p>
<p>I still think the XBox 360 does a better job at this than AppleTV and it is also a kick ass gaming console.  </p>
<p>Also, iTunes is still the backbone of the AppleTV experience, and as long as iTunes does such a horrible job with my media library &#8212;  Apple *please* let your users disable gapless playback and album art as an option &#8212; it&#8217;s difficult for me to get excited about building a strategy around AppleTV.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2008/01/apples-idongle-still-falls-short.html/comment-page-1#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mention that the Apple TV is not a DVR, and that the Xbox 360 allows you to work as a media center extender.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While that is true, it doesn&#039;t support your point that Microsoft&#039;s product Does It and Apple&#039;s Does Not.  Neither product is a DVR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention that the Apple TV is not a DVR, and that the Xbox 360 allows you to work as a media center extender.</p>
<p>While that is true, it doesn&#8217;t support your point that Microsoft&#8217;s product Does It and Apple&#8217;s Does Not.  Neither product is a DVR.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Panic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Panic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think that one of the biggest short-comings is the fact that movies won&#039;t be available until 30 days after they are released on DVD.  Thats right about the time that Blockbuster and similar stores start to discount the &quot;previously viewed&quot; selection to 4 for $20.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think that one of the biggest short-comings is the fact that movies won&#8217;t be available until 30 days after they are released on DVD.  Thats right about the time that Blockbuster and similar stores start to discount the &#8220;previously viewed&#8221; selection to 4 for $20.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe people WANT a DVR. What they want is to watch what they want, when they want.  The DVR is a temporary hack.  It won&#039;t be long until we get any show, any movie, any time anywhere.  Then what use would the DVR be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe people WANT a DVR. What they want is to watch what they want, when they want.  The DVR is a temporary hack.  It won&#8217;t be long until we get any show, any movie, any time anywhere.  Then what use would the DVR be?</p>
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		<title>By: MemeSlider</title>
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		<dc:creator>MemeSlider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know... before I agreed with you. The two things I felt were lacking in the Apple TV were HD and DVR. Well, today we get HD, but now I don&#039;t think I care about a DVR. And now I believe that people only *think* that they want a DVR.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am an Executive Producer at a company that owns a few cable networks. I help create design packages, promos, interstitials, etc. for these networks. I say this because I know that my days in network promotions are numbered. We really don&#039;t need broadcast networks anymore. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a consumer however, I feel like I am being overcharged for Comcast&#039;s cable TV service. I really only appreciate the premium &lt;b&gt;shows&lt;/b&gt; from HBO, Showtime, etc. The other channels are not worth much to me, but I am saddled with them just to get to the Premium tiers. And all I care about are the shows. The content. Not one iota about the network that delivers it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Doing the math I spend about $1200 a year just on cable TV. Written out, that seems like a lot of money! Why? So I can record a few shows on my DVR? I am happier waiting for the entire season of Dexter to be available on DVD and then watching the whole season in a weekend. I&#039;m a little surprised at this, but I enjoy the show more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am beginning to see the value in dumping cable TV and getting a box that will play video files. Files that I buy from iTunes, make myself or, in the not-too-distant future, purchase and download directly from the content producers themselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So no more networks... just an internet connection and content. What use then, is a DVR?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You will not see DVR functionality in the Apple TV. Ever. Because Steve knows what I know and will use his company&#039;s resources to design for the future and accelerate the change. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Meanwhile, I better get writing on my show ideas, I&#039;m going to be out of a job soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know&#8230; before I agreed with you. The two things I felt were lacking in the Apple TV were HD and DVR. Well, today we get HD, but now I don&#8217;t think I care about a DVR. And now I believe that people only *think* that they want a DVR.</p>
<p>I am an Executive Producer at a company that owns a few cable networks. I help create design packages, promos, interstitials, etc. for these networks. I say this because I know that my days in network promotions are numbered. We really don&#8217;t need broadcast networks anymore. </p>
<p>As a consumer however, I feel like I am being overcharged for Comcast&#8217;s cable TV service. I really only appreciate the premium <b>shows</b> from HBO, Showtime, etc. The other channels are not worth much to me, but I am saddled with them just to get to the Premium tiers. And all I care about are the shows. The content. Not one iota about the network that delivers it.</p>
<p>Doing the math I spend about $1200 a year just on cable TV. Written out, that seems like a lot of money! Why? So I can record a few shows on my DVR? I am happier waiting for the entire season of Dexter to be available on DVD and then watching the whole season in a weekend. I&#8217;m a little surprised at this, but I enjoy the show more.</p>
<p>I am beginning to see the value in dumping cable TV and getting a box that will play video files. Files that I buy from iTunes, make myself or, in the not-too-distant future, purchase and download directly from the content producers themselves.</p>
<p>So no more networks&#8230; just an internet connection and content. What use then, is a DVR?</p>
<p>You will not see DVR functionality in the Apple TV. Ever. Because Steve knows what I know and will use his company&#8217;s resources to design for the future and accelerate the change. </p>
<p>Meanwhile, I better get writing on my show ideas, I&#8217;m going to be out of a job soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Thiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think they&#039;re heading in the right direction. Younger people spend much more time on the internet that in front of the TV. I&#039;m not event a teenager anymore, and I barely watch TV myself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I use my cable service to watch a couple of series. Period. Why bother getting a DVR if I can pay 1.99 and download the episode I want to watch...when I decided to watch, without commercials and without worrying about setting the thing up to record my show?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I watch lots of movies, which I download ripped from BitTorrent for free, watch, and delete. I wouldn&#039;t mind paying 3.99 for having an instant download, better image quality and proper subtitles when needed. But I haven&#039;t rented a DVD for myself in years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Plus, if I can watch so much independent, creative youtube videos and podcasts, why would I ever care about most of the garbage produced nowadays for TV? Seriously, take out series and movies...what is left?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think they see what the future will be, and are pushing it instead of supporting old models.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Assuming that the online rental have a decent selection of movies, I&#039;ll cancel my cable subscription and buy an Apple TV the day the service becomes available in Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they&#8217;re heading in the right direction. Younger people spend much more time on the internet that in front of the TV. I&#8217;m not event a teenager anymore, and I barely watch TV myself.</p>
<p>I use my cable service to watch a couple of series. Period. Why bother getting a DVR if I can pay 1.99 and download the episode I want to watch&#8230;when I decided to watch, without commercials and without worrying about setting the thing up to record my show?</p>
<p>I watch lots of movies, which I download ripped from BitTorrent for free, watch, and delete. I wouldn&#8217;t mind paying 3.99 for having an instant download, better image quality and proper subtitles when needed. But I haven&#8217;t rented a DVD for myself in years.</p>
<p>Plus, if I can watch so much independent, creative youtube videos and podcasts, why would I ever care about most of the garbage produced nowadays for TV? Seriously, take out series and movies&#8230;what is left?</p>
<p>I think they see what the future will be, and are pushing it instead of supporting old models.</p>
<p>Assuming that the online rental have a decent selection of movies, I&#8217;ll cancel my cable subscription and buy an Apple TV the day the service becomes available in Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Oster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Oster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@photoTristan: I&#039;ll bet you a bottle of your favorite libation that &quot;start watching it instantly&quot; will be more like, &quot;wait 30 to 60 minutes for it to buffer&quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I could easily be wrong but I&#039;ve yet to see a video streaming service be anywhere close to &quot;instant&quot; when under load, especially if you add HD and most people&#039;s slow internet connections into the mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@photoTristan: I&#8217;ll bet you a bottle of your favorite libation that &#8220;start watching it instantly&#8221; will be more like, &#8220;wait 30 to 60 minutes for it to buffer&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I could easily be wrong but I&#8217;ve yet to see a video streaming service be anywhere close to &#8220;instant&#8221; when under load, especially if you add HD and most people&#8217;s slow internet connections into the mix.</p>
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