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	<title>Comments on: The iPhone&#8217;s Mobile Web &#8220;Experience&#8221; Sucks</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4717</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A big issue with the iPhone is privacy and security. The algorithms used by the cell networks leave much to be desired. Take a look at the Anonymous.To article regarding iPhone privacy:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://anonymous.to/anonymous_surfing/mobile.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anonymous Surfing with the iPhone&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big issue with the iPhone is privacy and security. The algorithms used by the cell networks leave much to be desired. Take a look at the Anonymous.To article regarding iPhone privacy:<br /><a href="http://anonymous.to/anonymous_surfing/mobile.html" rel="nofollow">Anonymous Surfing with the iPhone</a></p>
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		<title>By: TranceMist</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4721</link>
		<dc:creator>TranceMist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot has been said about the device,  the cost of the device, and the poor performance of AT&amp;T;&#039;s EDGE network.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Little has been said about AT&amp;T;&#039;s pricing. I think their EDGE pricing is pompous and ridiculous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have all-you-can suck EDGE on T-Mobile for $15/month. In fact, I have a $30 bundle that gives me unlimited EDGE and T-Mobile HotSpot (WiFi).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why does AT&amp;T; still gouge for their service? It&#039;s not even HSDPA!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And then there&#039;s the gouging on international roaming. I will give AT&amp;T; credit for being the first to introduce some international roaming data plans, but all of the carriers have a very, very long way to go on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot has been said about the device,  the cost of the device, and the poor performance of AT&#038;T;&#8217;s EDGE network.</p>
<p>Little has been said about AT&#038;T;&#8217;s pricing. I think their EDGE pricing is pompous and ridiculous.</p>
<p>I have all-you-can suck EDGE on T-Mobile for $15/month. In fact, I have a $30 bundle that gives me unlimited EDGE and T-Mobile HotSpot (WiFi).</p>
<p>Why does AT&#038;T; still gouge for their service? It&#8217;s not even HSDPA!</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the gouging on international roaming. I will give AT&#038;T; credit for being the first to introduce some international roaming data plans, but all of the carriers have a very, very long way to go on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4722</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poor suckers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poor suckers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4723</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting reading your experience.  Up here in Canada the iPhone is not available yet.  Instead we only have the version of the iPhone that has no phone(the iTouch).  But if the internet experience with the iTouch and iPhone is the same, then why would I buy an iTouch?  Ah yes, so I can buy/download mp3s from the iTunes store....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting reading your experience.  Up here in Canada the iPhone is not available yet.  Instead we only have the version of the iPhone that has no phone(the iTouch).  But if the internet experience with the iTouch and iPhone is the same, then why would I buy an iTouch?  Ah yes, so I can buy/download mp3s from the iTunes store&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeyleader</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4724</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeyleader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, I couldnt agree more. My biggest issue was the hype &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;how the internet is supposed to be&quot; was the claim ...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;my god Steve .. you got it so dam wrong. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nige</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I couldnt agree more. My biggest issue was the hype </p>
<p>&#8220;how the internet is supposed to be&#8221; was the claim &#8230;</p>
<p>my god Steve .. you got it so dam wrong. </p>
<p>Nige</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Link</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4725</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Link</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, EDGE is built in the phone when they could have chosen 3g, so it IS a valid iPhone criticism.  My samsung sync has 3g and it is kick ass compared to edge. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I too found iphone edge speeds disappointing, so I went w/ a 3g phone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I find using goog 411 hit or miss, but I know quickly whether or not I have a hit or miss and can move on.  I use goog 411 and sms (google search) now for the most part.  I also use some wap sites (aa.com has good flight delay info for example).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, EDGE is built in the phone when they could have chosen 3g, so it IS a valid iPhone criticism.  My samsung sync has 3g and it is kick ass compared to edge. </p>
<p>I too found iphone edge speeds disappointing, so I went w/ a 3g phone.</p>
<p>I find using goog 411 hit or miss, but I know quickly whether or not I have a hit or miss and can move on.  I use goog 411 and sms (google search) now for the most part.  I also use some wap sites (aa.com has good flight delay info for example).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4726</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$700?  did you pay an illegal 100$ to wait in line for you?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;also, your criticism about the edge network has nothing to do with the phone itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;also, you just have poor coverage in your area.  edge speeds near me are very quick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$700?  did you pay an illegal 100$ to wait in line for you?</p>
<p>also, your criticism about the edge network has nothing to do with the phone itself.</p>
<p>also, you just have poor coverage in your area.  edge speeds near me are very quick.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Oster</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4727</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Oster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Don MacAskill:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m glad you&#039;re near so much open WiFi, that definitly helps when it comes to iPhone browsing but I&#039;m curious; since you&#039;re always near your house, office or a friends what do you really need a mobile web browser for?  Seems like everything you mentioned could just as easily be done from your home or work machine or asking your friend if you can jump on their machine for a second.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Granted there is a very high cool factor in doing it from your couch instead of taking the 2 minute walk to a computer but honestly it seems more like a solution looking for a problem.  This backs up my view of the current genreation of mobile web-browsing, if you&#039;re not very mobile then it works great :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don MacAskill:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re near so much open WiFi, that definitly helps when it comes to iPhone browsing but I&#8217;m curious; since you&#8217;re always near your house, office or a friends what do you really need a mobile web browser for?  Seems like everything you mentioned could just as easily be done from your home or work machine or asking your friend if you can jump on their machine for a second.</p>
<p>Granted there is a very high cool factor in doing it from your couch instead of taking the 2 minute walk to a computer but honestly it seems more like a solution looking for a problem.  This backs up my view of the current genreation of mobile web-browsing, if you&#8217;re not very mobile then it works great <img src='http://thomashawk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Oster</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/11/the-iphones-mobile-web-experience-sucks.html/comment-page-1#comment-4728</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Oster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*grin* I love when Apple users turn on each other; when one dares say anything approaching criticism, constructive or not, it&#039;s like wading into shark-infected water wearing a meat suit.  These same commenters now attacking you probably hoisted you on their shoulders just a few months ago when you &quot;made the switch&quot;.  Ahh, the fickle fruits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, you hit upon something that gets glossed over when people talk about the iPhone, the lack of quality wireless pipes, whether it&#039;s AT&amp;T;&#039;s EDGE network or open WiFi spots.  Anyone that has a solid, quality experience with either of those is an edge case vs. the majority.  Another thing I&#039;ve noticed is a lot of people have great connects in places they don&#039;t really need it like their their office or home or perhaps at a local coffee shop where a laptop is usually close by yet places where mobile web browsing may be most useful tend to have horrible connectivity like airports, subways, ferries, etc.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s a frustrating paradox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*grin* I love when Apple users turn on each other; when one dares say anything approaching criticism, constructive or not, it&#8217;s like wading into shark-infected water wearing a meat suit.  These same commenters now attacking you probably hoisted you on their shoulders just a few months ago when you &#8220;made the switch&#8221;.  Ahh, the fickle fruits.</p>
<p>Anyway, you hit upon something that gets glossed over when people talk about the iPhone, the lack of quality wireless pipes, whether it&#8217;s AT&#038;T;&#8217;s EDGE network or open WiFi spots.  Anyone that has a solid, quality experience with either of those is an edge case vs. the majority.  Another thing I&#8217;ve noticed is a lot of people have great connects in places they don&#8217;t really need it like their their office or home or perhaps at a local coffee shop where a laptop is usually close by yet places where mobile web browsing may be most useful tend to have horrible connectivity like airports, subways, ferries, etc.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a frustrating paradox.</p>
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		<title>By: AdamJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdamJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The $100 Apple Credit *Not Working* is a known problem (happened to myself) and long story short, if you goto the Apple page to request a iPhone credit - you will find that they will issue you a NEW credit number.  That one will work.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But you better hurry - the page says they only accept claims until 11/30!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;-AdamJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The $100 Apple Credit *Not Working* is a known problem (happened to myself) and long story short, if you goto the Apple page to request a iPhone credit &#8211; you will find that they will issue you a NEW credit number.  That one will work.</p>
<p>But you better hurry &#8211; the page says they only accept claims until 11/30!</p>
<p>-AdamJ</p>
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