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	<title>Comments on: Email, 1961-2007 R.I.P&#8230; Thank God!</title>
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		<title>By: Pankaj Taneja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pankaj Taneja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 01:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, its 2009, and email lingers on. And its even growing stronger, with the torrent of email expected to only increase over the next few years. Email may never completely die out - its too simple to use, were too used to it - but we can at least reduce the burden on its shoulders. Email is clearly not best for collaborative work (working together on files), and we need to shift to tools which are optimal for these purposes.

We had recently done a whitepaper on the subject (http://hyperoffice.com/business-email-overload/) which was also covered by ZDNet (http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=18692)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, its 2009, and email lingers on. And its even growing stronger, with the torrent of email expected to only increase over the next few years. Email may never completely die out &#8211; its too simple to use, were too used to it &#8211; but we can at least reduce the burden on its shoulders. Email is clearly not best for collaborative work (working together on files), and we need to shift to tools which are optimal for these purposes.</p>
<p>We had recently done a whitepaper on the subject (<a href="http://hyperoffice.com/business-email-overload/" rel="nofollow">http://hyperoffice.com/business-email-overload/</a>) which was also covered by ZDNet (<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=18692" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=18692</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Lips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthias Lips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems to me like you&#039;ver just a problem with your spam-filter and your email-address being used for signing up to some newsletters and notifications. is it really a big thing to just turn off the notifications, once mark a newsletter as spam and most important: turn on your spam-filter? and also important: do some backups man. loosing 5000+ emails could have also been 5000+ lines of code, text, blogs or pictures of your lovely kids in front of some sunset-scenario...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems to me like you&#8217;ver just a problem with your spam-filter and your email-address being used for signing up to some newsletters and notifications. is it really a big thing to just turn off the notifications, once mark a newsletter as spam and most important: turn on your spam-filter? and also important: do some backups man. loosing 5000+ emails could have also been 5000+ lines of code, text, blogs or pictures of your lovely kids in front of some sunset-scenario&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ilker</title>
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		<dc:creator>ilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ the last comment. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although I want to agree with you and that no one enjoys getting spam (except Eric up there), I have to disagree - either my Gmail spam filter works very well or it doesn&#039;t work well for others. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In any case, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thethinkingblog.com/2007/11/death-of-email.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here are my thoughts&lt;/a&gt; on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ the last comment. </p>
<p>Although I want to agree with you and that no one enjoys getting spam (except Eric up there), I have to disagree &#8211; either my Gmail spam filter works very well or it doesn&#8217;t work well for others. </p>
<p>In any case, <a href="http://www.thethinkingblog.com/2007/11/death-of-email.html" rel="nofollow">here are my thoughts</a> on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... problem is, Facebook, IM, Pownce, etc. all require you to register with an email address.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; problem is, Facebook, IM, Pownce, etc. all require you to register with an email address.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravos, Thomas. Well said. The big issues here are respect, trust and attention. It seems the problems are caused too often by those we have white listed. Rock on. P.S. LOVE your photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravos, Thomas. Well said. The big issues here are respect, trust and attention. It seems the problems are caused too often by those we have white listed. Rock on. P.S. LOVE your photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul L. McCord Jr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul L. McCord Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Thomas,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While I must agree with you on many points, I will have to respectfully disagree.  My kids refuse to use their email, opting for MySpace.  I prefer Facebook, or Twitter.  Ultimately though I do realize that email is not going away for several reasons...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. My employer, the U.S. Air Force requires us to use &quot;their&quot; email.  They block access to all webmail, social, and photo sharing sites.  They even block access to any instant messaging sites.  They have recently added access to the Windows Messenger only allowing Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) connections internally.&lt;br /&gt;I do find it hard to believe that a n organization as security concious as my employer would ever allow communication to go through third party applications that cannot be monitored effectively.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  As Eric Gonzolez says, most social networking sites require an email address as your login.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  My kids not only refuse email, they also refuse to use instant messaging tools.  At some point they are going to have to send files to one another.  This is going to either require email or instant messaging.  The point being, at some point they will grow out of the newest fad when they get beyond their current circle.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As one that loves to jump to the newest toy myself, I have to admit that in the not too distant future, there will be a newer toy to go to but email will be around for a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Thomas,</p>
<p>While I must agree with you on many points, I will have to respectfully disagree.  My kids refuse to use their email, opting for MySpace.  I prefer Facebook, or Twitter.  Ultimately though I do realize that email is not going away for several reasons&#8230;</p>
<p>1. My employer, the U.S. Air Force requires us to use &#8220;their&#8221; email.  They block access to all webmail, social, and photo sharing sites.  They even block access to any instant messaging sites.  They have recently added access to the Windows Messenger only allowing Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) connections internally.<br />I do find it hard to believe that a n organization as security concious as my employer would ever allow communication to go through third party applications that cannot be monitored effectively.</p>
<p>2.  As Eric Gonzolez says, most social networking sites require an email address as your login.</p>
<p>3.  My kids not only refuse email, they also refuse to use instant messaging tools.  At some point they are going to have to send files to one another.  This is going to either require email or instant messaging.  The point being, at some point they will grow out of the newest fad when they get beyond their current circle.</p>
<p>As one that loves to jump to the newest toy myself, I have to admit that in the not too distant future, there will be a newer toy to go to but email will be around for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Keven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignoring messages on IM is disruptive to my workflow. Ignoring e-mail isn&#039;t, and it doesn&#039;t insult the person trying to contact you like ignoring IMs when you are &quot;available&quot; does.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If all your friends and business contacts are active on IM, you probably need to broaden your social and business life a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring messages on IM is disruptive to my workflow. Ignoring e-mail isn&#8217;t, and it doesn&#8217;t insult the person trying to contact you like ignoring IMs when you are &#8220;available&#8221; does.</p>
<p>If all your friends and business contacts are active on IM, you probably need to broaden your social and business life a bit.</p>
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		<title>By: VxJasonxV</title>
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		<dc:creator>VxJasonxV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;E-mail is still good for attachments, though, and we still need it to sign up for stuff online like Zooomr.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;E-mail is and always has been TERRIBLE for attachments.&lt;br /&gt;And you don&#039;t need it for Zooomr, Zooomr allows the use of OpenID (and thank goodness for that).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are so many alternatives to confirmation than e-mail alone. Some of these may be better or worse in one&#039;s own opinion (just like e-mail is):&lt;br /&gt;SMS&lt;br /&gt;Jabber&lt;br /&gt;AIM/MSN/Y!/ICQ&lt;br /&gt;Actual Audio Phone Call providing a Pin or simple audible confirmation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s probably a billion more, I&#039;m just forgetting :/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;E-mail is still good for attachments, though, and we still need it to sign up for stuff online like Zooomr.&#8221;</p>
<p>E-mail is and always has been TERRIBLE for attachments.<br />And you don&#8217;t need it for Zooomr, Zooomr allows the use of OpenID (and thank goodness for that).</p>
<p>There are so many alternatives to confirmation than e-mail alone. Some of these may be better or worse in one&#8217;s own opinion (just like e-mail is):<br />SMS<br />Jabber<br />AIM/MSN/Y!/ICQ<br />Actual Audio Phone Call providing a Pin or simple audible confirmation.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably a billion more, I&#8217;m just forgetting :/.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were operating an online business where you have to sell things to actual clients (such as photographic prints and image licenses), maybe you&#039;d feel differently about email ? Or would you pick-up the phone ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were operating an online business where you have to sell things to actual clients (such as photographic prints and image licenses), maybe you&#8217;d feel differently about email ? Or would you pick-up the phone ?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To echo Dawn&#039;s sentiment, it&#039;s surprising to hear that the CEO and public face of Zooomr has so little interest in helping out its users.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I help out Zooomr users every single day.  I answer more support emails personally than probably any CEO or any other company...  well except maybe Craig Newmark over at craigslist.  Support emails are meaningful and it&#039;s a shame that they have to be mixed in with so much other unimportant stuff.  Still, I find I also deal with just as many support issues from within Zooomr itself as opposed to email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><br />To echo Dawn&#8217;s sentiment, it&#8217;s surprising to hear that the CEO and public face of Zooomr has so little interest in helping out its users.</i></p>
<p>I help out Zooomr users every single day.  I answer more support emails personally than probably any CEO or any other company&#8230;  well except maybe Craig Newmark over at craigslist.  Support emails are meaningful and it&#8217;s a shame that they have to be mixed in with so much other unimportant stuff.  Still, I find I also deal with just as many support issues from within Zooomr itself as opposed to email.</p>
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