Comments on: Flickr = Censorship, Part 119,274 http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html Sat, 26 May 2012 02:31:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Good Business Ideas http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-285276 Good Business Ideas Tue, 03 Aug 2010 07:42:11 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-285276 A great way to use flickr photos is a plugin called photodropper which searches all of the creative commons pics and let your drop them right in the page. Not sure if that is relivant to the censorship issue but really makes the posts look nice. Rob http://www.egoodbusinessideas.org/business-ideas-for-beginners A great way to use flickr photos is a plugin called photodropper which searches all of the creative commons pics and let your drop them right in the page.

Not sure if that is relivant to the censorship issue but really makes the posts look nice.

Rob
http://www.egoodbusinessideas.org/business-ideas-for-beginners

]]> By: photos of children smoking http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-62697 photos of children smoking Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:41:06 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-62697 [...] Thomas Hawk alerted me to yet more silliness from Flickr. I’ll leave you to draw your own conclusions, but do read the threads. This is a magnificent photograph, don’t you think? If it, or the one that started this had been deleted because it was ’stolen’, then fair enough. I’m in danger of losing more than 60 seconds of happiness. [...] [...] Thomas Hawk alerted me to yet more silliness from Flickr. I’ll leave you to draw your own conclusions, but do read the threads. This is a magnificent photograph, don’t you think? If it, or the one that started this had been deleted because it was ’stolen’, then fair enough. I’m in danger of losing more than 60 seconds of happiness. [...]

]]> By: rss http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5591 rss Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:37:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5591 Flickr and Yahoo are private businesses, and are well within their rights to censor whatever they so choose on their sites. <br /><br />A more salient question regards the need for the civil realm to extend to cyberspace. <br /><br />William Gibson in his novel <b>Neuromancer</b> foresaw the movement of civic space into cyberspace, and this is coming to pass. Unfortunately, most internet service providers view themselves as providers of an "information service" rather than as common carriers. Hence, even if one speak with one's own "voice" -- that is, with one's own server -- it is likely that one's internet service provider has reserved itself the right to veto what is said. They have done this, it is likely, via the contract entered into upon subscription. <br /><br />What is needed, juridically, is the extension of the human rights into cyberspace. Flickr and Yahoo are private businesses, and are well within their rights to censor whatever they so choose on their sites.

A more salient question regards the need for the civil realm to extend to cyberspace.

William Gibson in his novel Neuromancer foresaw the movement of civic space into cyberspace, and this is coming to pass. Unfortunately, most internet service providers view themselves as providers of an “information service” rather than as common carriers. Hence, even if one speak with one’s own “voice” — that is, with one’s own server — it is likely that one’s internet service provider has reserved itself the right to veto what is said. They have done this, it is likely, via the contract entered into upon subscription.

What is needed, juridically, is the extension of the human rights into cyberspace.

]]> By: madame http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5592 madame Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:28:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5592 i'd be interested in hearing your views on bloggers who censor their comments. i’d be interested in hearing your views on bloggers who censor their comments.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5593 Anonymous Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:36:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5593 It is a great photo. It is art and captures so much in a single image. I doubt if this photo will send 1,000s of pre-teens to by smokes. <br /><br />What's next goose stepping in DC with faso-parents forcing their evil offspring into my world. Don't we have enough entitled parents and children? It is a great photo. It is art and captures so much in a single image. I doubt if this photo will send 1,000s of pre-teens to by smokes.

What’s next goose stepping in DC with faso-parents forcing their evil offspring into my world. Don’t we have enough entitled parents and children?

]]> By: Carlos http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5594 Carlos Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:19:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5594 I agree on most issues raised by people against censorship. On the other hand, I completely disagree with people supporting flickr for doing what they want with their site, although true enough we must remember that it is a company part of a group which once ruled the e-world (yahoo!) in which freedom was paramount. First the closing down of free chats a few years ago, now regulating photostreams (for those who think censorship is to harsh), what's next?<br /><br />I'm all for free will and as long as people are not being shown by force such "horrendous images" there shouldn't be a problem. And if you "by terrible and incorrectable mistake" happen to fall into one of these obscene pictures JUST PLEASE: -MOVE ON-. I agree on most issues raised by people against censorship. On the other hand, I completely disagree with people supporting flickr for doing what they want with their site, although true enough we must remember that it is a company part of a group which once ruled the e-world (yahoo!) in which freedom was paramount. First the closing down of free chats a few years ago, now regulating photostreams (for those who think censorship is to harsh), what’s next?

I’m all for free will and as long as people are not being shown by force such “horrendous images” there shouldn’t be a problem. And if you “by terrible and incorrectable mistake” happen to fall into one of these obscene pictures JUST PLEASE: -MOVE ON-.

]]> By: Andy Atkinson http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5595 Andy Atkinson Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:52:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5595 Hi Thomas. How would you feel of Flickr made the photo private instead of deleting it from the photostream. For people that use Flickr as storage or a metadata authoring tool, Flickr is saying you can't share your stuff here, but you *also* can't store or annotate your stuff here, when I think they could draw a line between those two things. Hi Thomas. How would you feel of Flickr made the photo private instead of deleting it from the photostream. For people that use Flickr as storage or a metadata authoring tool, Flickr is saying you can’t share your stuff here, but you *also* can’t store or annotate your stuff here, when I think they could draw a line between those two things.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5596 Anonymous Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:17:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5596 There are people who get off on kids smoking. Picture sites figure out what these folks collections are about and boot them. My guess is flickr ran into an isolated situation like this and globally over-reacted.<br /><br />An example of the types involved (originally an adult-smoking fetish forum, now slowly being overrun by the pedophiles:)<br />http://boards.lel-hosting.com/darkside/<br /><br />with threads on a recent crackdown on Angelfire/Lycos:<br /><br />http://boards.lel-hosting.com/darkside/messages/7853.html<br /><br />http://boards.lel-hosting.com/darkside/messages/7834.html There are people who get off on kids smoking. Picture sites figure out what these folks collections are about and boot them. My guess is flickr ran into an isolated situation like this and globally over-reacted.

An example of the types involved (originally an adult-smoking fetish forum, now slowly being overrun by the pedophiles:)
http://boards.lel-hosting.com/darkside/

with threads on a recent crackdown on Angelfire/Lycos:

http://boards.lel-hosting.com/darkside/messages/7853.html

http://boards.lel-hosting.com/darkside/messages/7834.html

]]> By: Marina G http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5597 Marina G Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:10:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5597 Is it a crime to smoke underage in the USA? I thought it was only a crime to SELL cigarettes to minors. <br /><br />If this is the case, then Flickr is censoring something that isn't even a crime. Is it a crime to smoke underage in the USA? I thought it was only a crime to SELL cigarettes to minors.

If this is the case, then Flickr is censoring something that isn’t even a crime.

]]> By: Scott http://thomashawk.com/2007/09/flickr-censorship-part-119274.html/comment-page-1#comment-5598 Scott Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:50:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=946#comment-5598 Terrence, this is stupid stuff. Terrence, this is stupid stuff.

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