Comments on: Hot Donkey, After 36 Hours We Just Activated the iPhone http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html Sat, 26 May 2012 02:31:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: iT&amp;T http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6620 iT&amp;T Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:57:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6620 To answer a question raised here...<br /><br />"I've used GSM for almost a decade and I've never needed any "activation" on- or offline. Put the SIM in the phone and off you go." -Anonymous @ 12:48am<br /><br />Q: So why is the iPhone different from other GSM phones?<br /><br />A: There were two different activations going on here. One with Apple and one with AT&T.; Apple gets 5% of all monthly service fees (which were set by Apple) from AT&T.; They wanted to make sure that all activated users were in their database, so they could get their money from AT&T.; Also, they did not want a crap load of unlocked phones showing up on other provider's networks where they get no service fee percentage. Anyone complaining about having to sign a 2 year contract to get an iPhone can blame Apple for this too. AT&T; had nothing to do with it. Apple touted this phone as being so revolutionary. It's not. The contract between AT&T; and Apple is what is revolutionary. Never has a phone maker had total pricing control, a cut of service contract revenue or control of activation through proprietary software. I am not saying all of the activations issues were Apple's fault, but the issues would not have happened had normal activation processes been allowed. To answer a question raised here…

“I’ve used GSM for almost a decade and I’ve never needed any “activation” on- or offline. Put the SIM in the phone and off you go.” -Anonymous @ 12:48am

Q: So why is the iPhone different from other GSM phones?

A: There were two different activations going on here. One with Apple and one with AT&T.; Apple gets 5% of all monthly service fees (which were set by Apple) from AT&T.; They wanted to make sure that all activated users were in their database, so they could get their money from AT&T.; Also, they did not want a crap load of unlocked phones showing up on other provider’s networks where they get no service fee percentage. Anyone complaining about having to sign a 2 year contract to get an iPhone can blame Apple for this too. AT&T; had nothing to do with it. Apple touted this phone as being so revolutionary. It’s not. The contract between AT&T; and Apple is what is revolutionary. Never has a phone maker had total pricing control, a cut of service contract revenue or control of activation through proprietary software. I am not saying all of the activations issues were Apple’s fault, but the issues would not have happened had normal activation processes been allowed.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6621 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 06:41:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6621 so what was the problem? That your phone was not in the dock when AT&Ts; backend servers tried to activate your phone? (hence no activation, no email?)<br /><br />That would be a serious omission on Apples part not to include in the itunes activation wizard that you need to leave your phone docked until you get the email. so what was the problem? That your phone was not in the dock when AT&Ts; backend servers tried to activate your phone? (hence no activation, no email?)

That would be a serious omission on Apples part not to include in the itunes activation wizard that you need to leave your phone docked until you get the email.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6622 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:22:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6622 Hmm. When you look at all the hours spent, money spent for an iPhone and it being activated, that is a huge price to pay. You can make the money back easy perhaps, but is it time well spent? You don't get that back.<br />Its kind of ironic that I got a FREE offer for a Razr V3T this week, that took about 10 minutes to order over the phone. When I received it in the mail (No waiting in line), it activated ITSELF after I charged it (This phone activation would have been a pretty boring and brief videocast). My phone service actually went down $10 a month when I switched providers.<br />The iPhone is the latest and greatest today, but its not going to replace your Canon 5D or your Macbook. Its a phone. And certainly not *miphone*. For a while anyway. Hmm. When you look at all the hours spent, money spent for an iPhone and it being activated, that is a huge price to pay. You can make the money back easy perhaps, but is it time well spent? You don’t get that back.
Its kind of ironic that I got a FREE offer for a Razr V3T this week, that took about 10 minutes to order over the phone. When I received it in the mail (No waiting in line), it activated ITSELF after I charged it (This phone activation would have been a pretty boring and brief videocast). My phone service actually went down $10 a month when I switched providers.
The iPhone is the latest and greatest today, but its not going to replace your Canon 5D or your Macbook. Its a phone. And certainly not *miphone*. For a while anyway.

]]> By: bytes and beans http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6623 bytes and beans Mon, 02 Jul 2007 02:06:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6623 I did my activation in under 8 minutes. If it had taken longer than 72hrs I would have start complaining, but all this documenting for something that you just leave there until its done.... <br /><br />i understand yoru frustration, but I think you exagerated with the calls too much.... I did my activation in under 8 minutes. If it had taken longer than 72hrs I would have start complaining, but all this documenting for something that you just leave there until its done….

i understand yoru frustration, but I think you exagerated with the calls too much….

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6624 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:59:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6624 Just keep on milking it Thomas. Perhaps one day being efamous will offset your parents not loving you. Just keep on milking it Thomas. Perhaps one day being efamous will offset your parents not loving you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6625 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:48:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6625 steelsun, it's a matter of definition. the "service" they're selling is that they carry your calls (when the equipment is working ok.)<br /><br />whole issue seems utterly weird. I've used GSM for almost a decade and I've never needed any "activation" on- or offline. Put the SIM in the phone and off you go. (I've always used unlocked phones.) steelsun, it’s a matter of definition. the “service” they’re selling is that they carry your calls (when the equipment is working ok.)

whole issue seems utterly weird. I’ve used GSM for almost a decade and I’ve never needed any “activation” on- or offline. Put the SIM in the phone and off you go. (I’ve always used unlocked phones.)

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6626 Anonymous Mon, 02 Jul 2007 00:47:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6626 BTW, you might want to update your slashdot submission and mention that you're no longer waiting for activation. Just a thought. BTW, you might want to update your slashdot submission and mention that you’re no longer waiting for activation. Just a thought.

]]> By: david http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6627 david Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:46:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6627 Makes you wonder if these people with the iPhone activation problems are a group of ADD-afflicted button pushers who don't let things happen without a thousand button presses or mouse clicks. Makes you wonder if these people with the iPhone activation problems are a group of ADD-afflicted button pushers who don’t let things happen without a thousand button presses or mouse clicks.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6628 Anonymous Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:44:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6628 The HTC 6800 (aka Titan, aka Sprint Mogul) rocks. No problems getting it going.<br /><br />There is even a hack that will make it look like an iphone - if you really need it to. The HTC 6800 (aka Titan, aka Sprint Mogul) rocks. No problems getting it going.

There is even a hack that will make it look like an iphone – if you really need it to.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2007/07/hot-donkey-after-36-hours-we-just.html/comment-page-1#comment-6629 Anonymous Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:22:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=1076#comment-6629 Are you on drugs? The "magic number" that solved your problem is the same number you called first according to the preceding post. Are you on drugs? The “magic number” that solved your problem is the same number you called first according to the preceding post.

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