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	<title>Comments on: More Censorship Charges for Flickr, This Time From Germany</title>
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		<title>By: Ishtars Blog &#187; Flickr und die Zensur</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/more-censorship-charges-for-flickr-this.html/comment-page-1#comment-85813</link>
		<dc:creator>Ishtars Blog &#187; Flickr und die Zensur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thomas Hawks von Zooomr findet das alles untoll [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/more-censorship-charges-for-flickr-this.html/comment-page-1#comment-7050</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In Germany, video games, as with other media, are subject to censorship, or &quot;decency standards&quot;, that are strict by the standards of other European nations&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;from&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_controversy#Germany&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not saying this is necessarily true but it does seem to represent what I&#039;ve personally heard anecdotally over the past few years.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A search on google about German video game censorship seems to also reflect this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In Germany, video games, as with other media, are subject to censorship, or &#8220;decency standards&#8221;, that are strict by the standards of other European nations&#8221;</p>
<p>from<br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_controversy#Germany" rel="nofollow"><br />Wikipedia</a></p>
<p>Not saying this is necessarily true but it does seem to represent what I&#8217;ve personally heard anecdotally over the past few years.</p>
<p>A search on google about German video game censorship seems to also reflect this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding German Censorship - &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I seem to recall Germany outright banning certain violent video games (and not just ones with Nazi imagery).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Am I mistaken?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding German Censorship &#8211; </p>
<p>I seem to recall Germany outright banning certain violent video games (and not just ones with Nazi imagery).</p>
<p>Am I mistaken?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 07:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all German users are having this issue - I assume mine as well as others url is &quot;old&quot; enough to fall out of the system.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And yes, while there are some laws against display of special symbols, nudity or better what an american audience considers to be nudity is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all German users are having this issue &#8211; I assume mine as well as others url is &#8220;old&#8221; enough to fall out of the system.</p>
<p>And yes, while there are some laws against display of special symbols, nudity or better what an american audience considers to be nudity is not.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/more-censorship-charges-for-flickr-this.html/comment-page-1#comment-7053</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Petra on Germany&#039;s reputation for censorship -- if anything Germany is far more tolerant than most of its European neighbors even (with the possible exception of countries to its north). It looks like Flickr will have more to say on this later, but I&#039;ll bet it does have something to do with Germany&#039;s strong anti-Nazi/anti-hate laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Petra on Germany&#8217;s reputation for censorship &#8212; if anything Germany is far more tolerant than most of its European neighbors even (with the possible exception of countries to its north). It looks like Flickr will have more to say on this later, but I&#8217;ll bet it does have something to do with Germany&#8217;s strong anti-Nazi/anti-hate laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Petra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Anonymous: the German constitution guarantees NO censorship (paragraph 5). There *is* actual censorship when it comes to Nazi symbols, for obvious historical reasons, but that&#039;s about it. Notorious? There are states in the US where oral sex is still illegal... the photos which are flagged moderate or restricted are by no means censored or probibited by German law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Anonymous: the German constitution guarantees NO censorship (paragraph 5). There *is* actual censorship when it comes to Nazi symbols, for obvious historical reasons, but that&#8217;s about it. Notorious? There are states in the US where oral sex is still illegal&#8230; the photos which are flagged moderate or restricted are by no means censored or probibited by German law.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/more-censorship-charges-for-flickr-this.html/comment-page-1#comment-7055</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Note: If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Germany, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That tells you right there that&#039;s a local regulatory issue and not a Flickr descision to single out German (or other) users for censorship.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Germany is somewhat notorious for censorship (as compared to other western countries). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing to see here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Note: If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Germany, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off.&#8221;</p>
<p>That tells you right there that&#8217;s a local regulatory issue and not a Flickr descision to single out German (or other) users for censorship.</p>
<p>Germany is somewhat notorious for censorship (as compared to other western countries). </p>
<p>Nothing to see here.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Oster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn Oster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what Paul said, &quot;Flickr is a photo sharing site, not a political site&quot; but to me that means people can post pictures of whatever they like.  If it *was* a political site then you&#039;d expect censorship but since it&#039;s just a photo sharing site people&#039;s photos shouldn&#039;t be put through the wringer like this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Moderation is a very tough subject though and I don&#039;t envy Flickr on this one.  The larger your user base the lower the common denominator of what people consider &quot;acceptable&quot;.  Pictures that would make me yawn could probably get other&#039;s blood boiling.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That being said Flickr&#039;s system for moderation is very poor.  A photo should be rated as &quot;may offend because:&quot; and then you should be able to easily and quickly get to the photo if you aren&#039;t as sensitive as some people seem to be.  Instead of the &quot;This photo is unavailable&quot; it should say &quot;This photo may singe your eyebrows off because it contains female breasts, click here if you can handle it&quot;.  The heavy handed approach flickr has been taking is going to cost them in the end or turn them into nothing more than a collection of pictures of a church bake sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what Paul said, &#8220;Flickr is a photo sharing site, not a political site&#8221; but to me that means people can post pictures of whatever they like.  If it *was* a political site then you&#8217;d expect censorship but since it&#8217;s just a photo sharing site people&#8217;s photos shouldn&#8217;t be put through the wringer like this.</p>
<p>Moderation is a very tough subject though and I don&#8217;t envy Flickr on this one.  The larger your user base the lower the common denominator of what people consider &#8220;acceptable&#8221;.  Pictures that would make me yawn could probably get other&#8217;s blood boiling.</p>
<p>That being said Flickr&#8217;s system for moderation is very poor.  A photo should be rated as &#8220;may offend because:&#8221; and then you should be able to easily and quickly get to the photo if you aren&#8217;t as sensitive as some people seem to be.  Instead of the &#8220;This photo is unavailable&#8221; it should say &#8220;This photo may singe your eyebrows off because it contains female breasts, click here if you can handle it&#8221;.  The heavy handed approach flickr has been taking is going to cost them in the end or turn them into nothing more than a collection of pictures of a church bake sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the Flickr TOS:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Note: If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Germany, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the Flickr TOS:</p>
<p><i>Note: If your Yahoo! ID is based in Singapore, Germany, Hong Kong or Korea you will only be able to view safe content based on your local Terms of Service so won’t be able to turn SafeSearch off.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just deleted my comment postulating that it was a bug. Apparently, this is the new policy. That&#039;s too bad really, does anyone know why Flickr has done this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just deleted my comment postulating that it was a bug. Apparently, this is the new policy. That&#8217;s too bad really, does anyone know why Flickr has done this?</p>
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