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	<title>Comments on: Dave Winer on Social Cameras</title>
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		<title>By: together, in a sense : neartime: find flickr photos taken nearby in time and space</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/dave-winer-on-social-camera.html/comment-page-1#comment-29599</link>
		<dc:creator>together, in a sense : neartime: find flickr photos taken nearby in time and space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a post by Dave Winer about a similar experience in Social Cameras, Thomas Hawk of Zoomr talks about combining location information with timestamps to find near photos. Mor Naaman mentions this form of browsing in an October 2006 article in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a post by Dave Winer about a similar experience in Social Cameras, Thomas Hawk of Zoomr talks about combining location information with timestamps to find near photos. Mor Naaman mentions this form of browsing in an October 2006 article in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/dave-winer-on-social-camera.html/comment-page-1#comment-6969</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did he really say &quot;permalink to this paragraph&quot; three times? Clean up your code!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did he really say &#8220;permalink to this paragraph&#8221; three times? Clean up your code!</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Weinberg</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/dave-winer-on-social-camera.html/comment-page-1#comment-6970</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Weinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft has some software that determines your location based on area wifi hotspots.  Put that technology on enough cameras with wifi (as all cameras/cameraphones should have in the future), and allow it to determine location based on all available data (GPS, IP address, cellular tower), and a camera could communicate with all local wifi devices, determine location based on information from all of them, and send small messages to all portables with turned-on sharing features: &quot;A Photo Has Been Taken Near You&quot;, with a link to find the photo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You go out for a walk, come home and find out four photos were taken in your area.  You go online, see the photos, and it adds a new dimension to your day and to photo sharing.  Already, there is a phenomenon on Facebook that people go to an event, then look for photos of the event on Facebook for tags to their profile, freeing them from having to take their own camera and leaving it to those who are more hobbyists.  That means you merely have to be present near a camera at an event, and not have to take pictures yourself, just have your cell phone in your pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft has some software that determines your location based on area wifi hotspots.  Put that technology on enough cameras with wifi (as all cameras/cameraphones should have in the future), and allow it to determine location based on all available data (GPS, IP address, cellular tower), and a camera could communicate with all local wifi devices, determine location based on information from all of them, and send small messages to all portables with turned-on sharing features: &#8220;A Photo Has Been Taken Near You&#8221;, with a link to find the photo.</p>
<p>You go out for a walk, come home and find out four photos were taken in your area.  You go online, see the photos, and it adds a new dimension to your day and to photo sharing.  Already, there is a phenomenon on Facebook that people go to an event, then look for photos of the event on Facebook for tags to their profile, freeing them from having to take their own camera and leaving it to those who are more hobbyists.  That means you merely have to be present near a camera at an event, and not have to take pictures yourself, just have your cell phone in your pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Kastle</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/dave-winer-on-social-camera.html/comment-page-1#comment-6971</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Kastle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there will be an annoying flip side to this situation.  Currently the situation where you usually have to wait to get to a computer and then decide what to upload is a nice filter to control what gets uploaded.  Can you imagine what happens with a GPS WiFi enabled camera (phone?) is set to always upload every picture taken and put in the hands of lots of people who don&#039;t have artistic restrained the amount of noise this could introduce, imagine 20 pictures of the same statue from the same spot.  There will have to be some way to filter out the dregs maybe based on what flickr calls &quot;The Interestingness&quot; or some thing like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there will be an annoying flip side to this situation.  Currently the situation where you usually have to wait to get to a computer and then decide what to upload is a nice filter to control what gets uploaded.  Can you imagine what happens with a GPS WiFi enabled camera (phone?) is set to always upload every picture taken and put in the hands of lots of people who don&#8217;t have artistic restrained the amount of noise this could introduce, imagine 20 pictures of the same statue from the same spot.  There will have to be some way to filter out the dregs maybe based on what flickr calls &#8220;The Interestingness&#8221; or some thing like that.</p>
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		<title>By: stockwerk23</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/dave-winer-on-social-camera.html/comment-page-1#comment-6972</link>
		<dc:creator>stockwerk23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A while ago i found this:&lt;br /&gt;http://www.blinksandbuttons.net/media_buttons_hires_en.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Goes pretty much in this direction, although it&#039;s just a concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while ago i found this:<br /><a href="http://www.blinksandbuttons.net/media_buttons_hires_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.blinksandbuttons.net/media_buttons_hires_en.html</a></p>
<p>Goes pretty much in this direction, although it&#8217;s just a concept.</p>
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		<title>By: striatic</title>
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		<dc:creator>striatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://www.flickr.com/groups/central/discuss/15772/97376/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;a distinct point that i also wanted to add is that one of the most important things that flickr does is blur the line between photographer and viewer.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;when we&#039;re on flickr, most of us both post and explore, often times in equal measure.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i think there may be a point in the not so distant future where this mentality extends to the photo-making itself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;so say i walk out on to the street ten or twenty years from now with my new gps/wifi enabled camera.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i&#039;m walking down the street, my camera is sending off my GPS coords to a broad based photo collection database {flickr? google?} and that database is sending back to my camera&#039;s LCD all of the most recent photographs taken in a twenty meter radius.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;how will this influence the photographs we take?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;what if, while snapping photos of the statue of liberty, up on my LCD pops up an image taken by the guy beside me with a much longer lens? do i really need to take my own shot, or why not just download his shot to my camera right then and there? {let&#039;s assume he&#039;s got his camera set up to automatically add a CC license to his photos}&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/central/discuss/15772/97376/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/groups/central/discuss/15772/97376/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;a distinct point that i also wanted to add is that one of the most important things that flickr does is blur the line between photographer and viewer.</p>
<p>when we&#8217;re on flickr, most of us both post and explore, often times in equal measure.</p>
<p>i think there may be a point in the not so distant future where this mentality extends to the photo-making itself.</p>
<p>so say i walk out on to the street ten or twenty years from now with my new gps/wifi enabled camera.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m walking down the street, my camera is sending off my GPS coords to a broad based photo collection database {flickr? google?} and that database is sending back to my camera&#8217;s LCD all of the most recent photographs taken in a twenty meter radius.</p>
<p>how will this influence the photographs we take?</p>
<p>what if, while snapping photos of the statue of liberty, up on my LCD pops up an image taken by the guy beside me with a much longer lens? do i really need to take my own shot, or why not just download his shot to my camera right then and there? {let&#8217;s assume he&#8217;s got his camera set up to automatically add a CC license to his photos}&#8221;</p>
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