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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/01/wired-news-how-yahoo-blew-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-10284</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on just about all points except for the buying Digg part. Social news is the future, yes. But Digg has a lot of issues, and I think it&#039;s one area where Yahoo would be better off building their own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I completely agree that they should be going after blogs and bloggers (especially instead of looking at a billion+ for Facebook). Thing is, they have practically nothing in that area (save for MyBlogLog). I wonder what it would take to acquire SixApart? Technorati?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on just about all points except for the buying Digg part. Social news is the future, yes. But Digg has a lot of issues, and I think it&#8217;s one area where Yahoo would be better off building their own.</p>
<p>I completely agree that they should be going after blogs and bloggers (especially instead of looking at a billion+ for Facebook). Thing is, they have practically nothing in that area (save for MyBlogLog). I wonder what it would take to acquire SixApart? Technorati?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yahoo does have human editors&lt;br /&gt;for their news section, particularly full coverage&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/fc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yahoo does have human editors<br />for their news section, particularly full coverage</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/fc" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/fc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, nice meeting you as well.  I&#039;m excited about things that Yahoo is doing in home entertainment.  You are working in one of the most exciting areas of technology.  As we discussed, I think figuring out high def ought to be a priority for your team as this is where the future of television is headed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I really liked the interactive stuff you guys had in place to go around the TV.  It would be great to see you guys figure out how to integrate tv listings better into search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, nice meeting you as well.  I&#8217;m excited about things that Yahoo is doing in home entertainment.  You are working in one of the most exciting areas of technology.  As we discussed, I think figuring out high def ought to be a priority for your team as this is where the future of television is headed.</p>
<p>I really liked the interactive stuff you guys had in place to go around the TV.  It would be great to see you guys figure out how to integrate tv listings better into search.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kearns</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/01/wired-news-how-yahoo-blew-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-10287</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Kearns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hawk,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think your comment above points out that many of Yahoo&#039;s problems are intertwined with their lack of tansparency and penchant for secrecy. &lt;br /&gt;They are not a &quot;cluetrain manifesto&quot; company.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Secrecy may have uses, but it also certainly makes early adopters and influencers very nervous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hawk,</p>
<p>I think your comment above points out that many of Yahoo&#8217;s problems are intertwined with their lack of tansparency and penchant for secrecy. <br />They are not a &#8220;cluetrain manifesto&#8221; company.</p>
<p>Secrecy may have uses, but it also certainly makes early adopters and influencers very nervous.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to meet you at CES Thomas. Thanks for your coments on the Digital Home stuff we were showing. Yeah, its pretty easy to pick on Yahoo! right now, because the dialogue is framed purely in terms of search. Fact is, there are many bright, passionate creative people over here working to connect the dots.  Many of these folks are pretty new here, and their impact is only now beginning to be felt. Personally, I&#039;m long on Yahoo. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;By the way, as the guy responsible for the Tivo scheduling app--I appreciate the thoughts. You are tracking with how we think about it.  Stay tuned for more developments in this area.  By the way, the realtime scheduling implementation we just launched with AT&amp;T; Homezone is awesome.  I&#039;ll give you a demo sometime if you&#039;re interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to meet you at CES Thomas. Thanks for your coments on the Digital Home stuff we were showing. Yeah, its pretty easy to pick on Yahoo! right now, because the dialogue is framed purely in terms of search. Fact is, there are many bright, passionate creative people over here working to connect the dots.  Many of these folks are pretty new here, and their impact is only now beginning to be felt. Personally, I&#8217;m long on Yahoo. </p>
<p>By the way, as the guy responsible for the Tivo scheduling app&#8211;I appreciate the thoughts. You are tracking with how we think about it.  Stay tuned for more developments in this area.  By the way, the realtime scheduling implementation we just launched with AT&#038;T; Homezone is awesome.  I&#8217;ll give you a demo sometime if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Zawodny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Zawodny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  There&#039;s always room for improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  There&#8217;s always room for improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy, Yahoo&#039;s &quot;primary&quot; service used to be search but no longer.  That changed a long time ago.  Yahoo&#039;s primary service is exactly as you indicate, more a combination of many different services, mail, messenger, finance, my yahoo, flickr, yahoo photos, fantasy sports, etc.   Which isn&#039;t bad at all.  But what I&#039;m addressing here more is Yahoo&#039;s inability to improve one single area, perhaps a shrinking part of the overall Yahoo pie, search.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yahoo *can* significantly improve search by integrating the various social properties that Yahoo has acquired over the past few years.  And perhaps this is all coming and just around the corner, etc. etc., but from the outside, without the benefit of internal visibility the words that it&#039;s coming ring hollow.  Yahoo&#039;s super secretive about their plans and why the delay on the integration.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A while back I think it was Stewart who said (I might be wrong on this) that one of the reasons for the delay on image search had to do with the fact that Flickr wanted to give people a way to opt out of having their photos in search.  Well we&#039;ve had that now for quite a while and still no meaningful search integration.  My own view is that Yahoo lacks the technological expertise to pull it off.  But that&#039;s just a guess as again I have no guidance as to what the hold up really is.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Austin.  That&#039;s exactly my point about TiVo.  You can record shows both at TiVo.com as well as at tv.yahoo.com, but it&#039;s not integrated with *search*.  The fact that Britney Spears is going to be on Letterman tonight when you are searching for Britney Spears is a super relevant fact.  By better integrating television appearances with celebrities and making easy one step record options from within search you would improve relevancy.  Further work should be done with television as well not the least of which is indexing closed caption text for archived shows.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Google&#039;s greater indexing/weighting of blogs is interesting.  It&#039;s not every blog of course.  They rely on PageRank, but overall it seems to be working.  Overall generally well page ranked blogs consistently produce interesting content.  When I want to read about search or Google, I&#039;m interested in what John Battelle has to say.  When I want to read about Microsoft or videoblogging or Podtech, I&#039;m interested in what Robert Scoble has to say.  When I want to read about Yahoo, I&#039;m interested in what Jeremy Zawodny has to say.  I think Yahoo needs to do a better job at integrating blog posts, especially from higher linked blogs, into their search results.  You may not, but I think this does something to give Google an advantage at present.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy, Yahoo&#8217;s &#8220;primary&#8221; service used to be search but no longer.  That changed a long time ago.  Yahoo&#8217;s primary service is exactly as you indicate, more a combination of many different services, mail, messenger, finance, my yahoo, flickr, yahoo photos, fantasy sports, etc.   Which isn&#8217;t bad at all.  But what I&#8217;m addressing here more is Yahoo&#8217;s inability to improve one single area, perhaps a shrinking part of the overall Yahoo pie, search.</p>
<p>Yahoo *can* significantly improve search by integrating the various social properties that Yahoo has acquired over the past few years.  And perhaps this is all coming and just around the corner, etc. etc., but from the outside, without the benefit of internal visibility the words that it&#8217;s coming ring hollow.  Yahoo&#8217;s super secretive about their plans and why the delay on the integration.</p>
<p>A while back I think it was Stewart who said (I might be wrong on this) that one of the reasons for the delay on image search had to do with the fact that Flickr wanted to give people a way to opt out of having their photos in search.  Well we&#8217;ve had that now for quite a while and still no meaningful search integration.  My own view is that Yahoo lacks the technological expertise to pull it off.  But that&#8217;s just a guess as again I have no guidance as to what the hold up really is.</p>
<p>Austin.  That&#8217;s exactly my point about TiVo.  You can record shows both at TiVo.com as well as at tv.yahoo.com, but it&#8217;s not integrated with *search*.  The fact that Britney Spears is going to be on Letterman tonight when you are searching for Britney Spears is a super relevant fact.  By better integrating television appearances with celebrities and making easy one step record options from within search you would improve relevancy.  Further work should be done with television as well not the least of which is indexing closed caption text for archived shows.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s greater indexing/weighting of blogs is interesting.  It&#8217;s not every blog of course.  They rely on PageRank, but overall it seems to be working.  Overall generally well page ranked blogs consistently produce interesting content.  When I want to read about search or Google, I&#8217;m interested in what John Battelle has to say.  When I want to read about Microsoft or videoblogging or Podtech, I&#8217;m interested in what Robert Scoble has to say.  When I want to read about Yahoo, I&#8217;m interested in what Jeremy Zawodny has to say.  I think Yahoo needs to do a better job at integrating blog posts, especially from higher linked blogs, into their search results.  You may not, but I think this does something to give Google an advantage at present.</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;5. Buy TiVo...being able to schedule, &lt;br /&gt;&gt;from Yahoo, my TiVo to record this show &lt;br /&gt;&gt;would be a unique advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;While not totally integrated, this functionality already exists. When I go to tv.yahoo.com, there are buttons labeled &#039;record to TiVo&#039; that&#039;ll do just that. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&gt;...highly ranked by Google. Now I&#039;m not &lt;br /&gt;&gt;saying that my article is necessarily &lt;br /&gt;&gt;authoritative...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So why should it be highly ranked? I like reading your blog, but if I&#039;m searching for info on who Gene Scott was, I don&#039;t necessarily want your blog entry about him. I can&#039;t count the number of times when I&#039;ve searched for serious information and can hardly find anything because it&#039;s all buried beneath people&#039;s rants about the subject. I still think Google should have a way to exclude blog entries on request, as many are listed highly in Google&#039;s PageRank just because of reciprocal blogger links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>5. Buy TiVo&#8230;being able to schedule, <br />>from Yahoo, my TiVo to record this show <br />>would be a unique advantage.</p>
<p>While not totally integrated, this functionality already exists. When I go to tv.yahoo.com, there are buttons labeled &#8216;record to TiVo&#8217; that&#8217;ll do just that. </p>
<p>>&#8230;highly ranked by Google. Now I&#8217;m not <br />>saying that my article is necessarily <br />>authoritative&#8230;</p>
<p>So why should it be highly ranked? I like reading your blog, but if I&#8217;m searching for info on who Gene Scott was, I don&#8217;t necessarily want your blog entry about him. I can&#8217;t count the number of times when I&#8217;ve searched for serious information and can hardly find anything because it&#8217;s all buried beneath people&#8217;s rants about the subject. I still think Google should have a way to exclude blog entries on request, as many are listed highly in Google&#8217;s PageRank just because of reciprocal blogger links.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Zawodny</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2007/01/wired-news-how-yahoo-blew-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-10292</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Zawodny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill: What is Yahoo&#039;s &quot;primary service&quot; exactly?  Email?  Messenger?  Search?  Front Page?  Fantasy Sports?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill: What is Yahoo&#8217;s &#8220;primary service&#8221; exactly?  Email?  Messenger?  Search?  Front Page?  Fantasy Sports?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Streeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Streeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow yeah. You&#039;re right on the money here. But not because you&#039;re a genius (I mean you are but not because of this) but because it&#039;s so obvious. Yahoo has a huge number of assets but yet they have failed to integrate them into their primary service for some reason. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh and another reason Digg gets more expensive with time: the longer they go without getting bought the more VC they have to take to keep it going which reduces the founders share of profit from a future buy-out. Which means that the incentive has to be pretty good for them to sell. Yahoo could still get them though. They&#039;re one of the few companies who have a need and the cash on hand to do it. But if they never integrate then what would be the point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow yeah. You&#8217;re right on the money here. But not because you&#8217;re a genius (I mean you are but not because of this) but because it&#8217;s so obvious. Yahoo has a huge number of assets but yet they have failed to integrate them into their primary service for some reason. </p>
<p>Oh and another reason Digg gets more expensive with time: the longer they go without getting bought the more VC they have to take to keep it going which reduces the founders share of profit from a future buy-out. Which means that the incentive has to be pretty good for them to sell. Yahoo could still get them though. They&#8217;re one of the few companies who have a need and the cash on hand to do it. But if they never integrate then what would be the point?</p>
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