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	<title>Comments on: Bohemian Carnvial, What a Bunch of Pretentious Pricks</title>
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		<title>By: Tova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been the the Bohemian Carnivale at the DNA lounge several times, and it is astounding and fabulous high quality creative entertainment. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I empathize with your frustration at being treated that way, Thomas, but not accepting Boenobo&#039;s apology and slandering him and the rest of the artists is uncalled for and ungracious. Boenobo was professional in his response - his job is to find out all sides of the conflict so he can take appropriate steps within his authority, not to be reactionary or emotional about it. I think the fact that he publicly apologized to you was a big win for you, and if you want to know more about his follow-up you should call him, not call him names. The fact that other artists from the group wrote you kind words means that your story struck a chord and must be all the talk around that community, so I&#039;m sure steps of some kind are being taken within their group to prevent further mishaps. Your continued complaints and lack of foregiveness after all that feedback you received from them seem misguided. In addition, if you (or any of your readers) are refusing to see this show based on your poor experience, that is a great loss for them -- they are missing out on a dynamic artistic performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been the the Bohemian Carnivale at the DNA lounge several times, and it is astounding and fabulous high quality creative entertainment. </p>
<p>I empathize with your frustration at being treated that way, Thomas, but not accepting Boenobo&#8217;s apology and slandering him and the rest of the artists is uncalled for and ungracious. Boenobo was professional in his response &#8211; his job is to find out all sides of the conflict so he can take appropriate steps within his authority, not to be reactionary or emotional about it. I think the fact that he publicly apologized to you was a big win for you, and if you want to know more about his follow-up you should call him, not call him names. The fact that other artists from the group wrote you kind words means that your story struck a chord and must be all the talk around that community, so I&#8217;m sure steps of some kind are being taken within their group to prevent further mishaps. Your continued complaints and lack of foregiveness after all that feedback you received from them seem misguided. In addition, if you (or any of your readers) are refusing to see this show based on your poor experience, that is a great loss for them &#8212; they are missing out on a dynamic artistic performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Thomas,&lt;br /&gt;Don&#039;t feel bad I have experienced the asshole to. I had the same exact experience with Bohemian Carnival at the DNA. Im glad you wrote about it. The asshole of this story are Vau de Vire Society.&lt;br /&gt;Boenobo is the fall guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Thomas,<br />Don&#8217;t feel bad I have experienced the asshole to. I had the same exact experience with Bohemian Carnival at the DNA. Im glad you wrote about it. The asshole of this story are Vau de Vire Society.<br />Boenobo is the fall guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but I hope that whoever you were talking about doesn&#039;t treat our guests like that ever again. Maybe I will form a welcoming committee for the new show goers and potential collaborators to make sure they are welcomed warmly into the experience. &lt;br /&gt;We&#039;ll burn  some sage.&lt;br /&gt;And I hope next time you enter a labrynth &lt;br /&gt;the splendid gardens will await you -  I&#039;m sending out my gardener to go weed out the trolls  right now! Good to know you saw one. We will keep an eye out and put up a sign -No Trolls Allowed! And chain your monsters to the bike lock, everybody! (Unless they are going into he show- come see me)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but I hope that whoever you were talking about doesn&#8217;t treat our guests like that ever again. Maybe I will form a welcoming committee for the new show goers and potential collaborators to make sure they are welcomed warmly into the experience. <br />We&#8217;ll burn  some sage.<br />And I hope next time you enter a labrynth <br />the splendid gardens will await you &#8211;  I&#8217;m sending out my gardener to go weed out the trolls  right now! Good to know you saw one. We will keep an eye out and put up a sign -No Trolls Allowed! And chain your monsters to the bike lock, everybody! (Unless they are going into he show- come see me)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I am a performer in the carnival and it really is unfortunate that you had and experience with one person who was acting weird like that. However, that does not mean you should necessarily go around overgeneralizing and saying mean things about everyone involved with the carnival. That guy and  that particular incident does not at all stand for all of us and how we actually are. Too bad sometimes one rude person can sour an experience sometimes. We all know what that&#039;s like. That guy should be repremanded for treating a photographer like that. None of the rest of us even knew about this unpleasant experience, actually- I happen to know almost ALL the other artists quite well and I could give you a very different report on what it&#039;s like to bee in the family...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I am a performer in the carnival and it really is unfortunate that you had and experience with one person who was acting weird like that. However, that does not mean you should necessarily go around overgeneralizing and saying mean things about everyone involved with the carnival. That guy and  that particular incident does not at all stand for all of us and how we actually are. Too bad sometimes one rude person can sour an experience sometimes. We all know what that&#8217;s like. That guy should be repremanded for treating a photographer like that. None of the rest of us even knew about this unpleasant experience, actually- I happen to know almost ALL the other artists quite well and I could give you a very different report on what it&#8217;s like to bee in the family&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Pali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Pali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The person who kicked you out should be held responsible and not the whole group.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&#039;t buy that for a second. Other visitors are responsible for their own actions, the event staff are part of the event as much as the performers and the person in charge.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If a cashier rips you off, do you complain to the cashier? Of course not...you go to the management.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The staff is part of the organization and represents them to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The person who kicked you out should be held responsible and not the whole group.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t buy that for a second. Other visitors are responsible for their own actions, the event staff are part of the event as much as the performers and the person in charge.</p>
<p>If a cashier rips you off, do you complain to the cashier? Of course not&#8230;you go to the management.</p>
<p>The staff is part of the organization and represents them to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, Boenobo contacted me and said he was going to look into it and asked me for information on the person that threw me out but I have not heard from him since then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, Boenobo contacted me and said he was going to look into it and asked me for information on the person that threw me out but I have not heard from him since then.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 09:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity, have you received that explanation and apology from Boenobo yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity, have you received that explanation and apology from Boenobo yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really sorry to hear that you were treated in such a way- it&#039;s shameful and someone should be held accountable: someone being the ONE person who confronted you- not DNA, not Boenobo, not the dozens of performers who were there that night. People need to take responsiblity for their own actions. What a mistake to pin responsibility for this event on everyone in the carnival that night and punish/slander those who are innocent. I hope there is such a thing as karma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really sorry to hear that you were treated in such a way- it&#8217;s shameful and someone should be held accountable: someone being the ONE person who confronted you- not DNA, not Boenobo, not the dozens of performers who were there that night. People need to take responsiblity for their own actions. What a mistake to pin responsibility for this event on everyone in the carnival that night and punish/slander those who are innocent. I hope there is such a thing as karma.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t be wasting my time or money going to see these clowns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#8217;t be wasting my time or money going to see these clowns.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been to the Bohemian Carnival and am a frequenter of the DNA Lounge in general.  A lot of people who go there go there a lot.  Boenobo gave his apology and while I don&#039;t know him there is no reason for him not to be sincere if he is the one who initially gave you the go ahead.  If one of his cohort&#039;s came up to and wouldn&#039;t give you the time of day or even ask Boenobo that&#039;s his problem and Boenobo should work on getting you your money back.  If this whole thing was because of a performer getting angry it may not have even been you that she was talking about, but the performer&#039;s can be kinda snotty too sadly from experience with asshole&#039;s (and some photographers lack tact when trying to get a great shot, myself included, without realizing they are being rude).  There are a lot of scantily clad ladies as part of the acts that go on there and they get hassled by tourists or people who don&#039;t try to fit in to the night.  Its circus themed in general and almost everyone dresses up for the occasion so its easy to spot an outsider.  Unfortunately the muscle doesn&#039;t like to see reason, so if you have a girl huffing off feeling like she was being hassled he&#039;s not going to see reason because his whole life consists of people giving him excuses for their behavior and him being paid to remove the problem so that the majority can go on having fun.  Sadly, they don&#039;t always get all the memo&#039;s.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think mainly what I&#039;m getting at is Blog&#039;s let people rant all they want and feel empowered by their readers even after an apology has been made.  The Bohemian Carnival night is a lot of fun, the people are cool and don&#039;t make that much money bringing us entertainment.  Its more than one circus troupe that comes to perform at these nights so there&#039;s a lot of subgroups involved as well, not to mention the DNA lounge staff on top of that.  Its a lot of breaks in the chain.  The person who kicked you out should be held responsible and not the whole group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to the Bohemian Carnival and am a frequenter of the DNA Lounge in general.  A lot of people who go there go there a lot.  Boenobo gave his apology and while I don&#8217;t know him there is no reason for him not to be sincere if he is the one who initially gave you the go ahead.  If one of his cohort&#8217;s came up to and wouldn&#8217;t give you the time of day or even ask Boenobo that&#8217;s his problem and Boenobo should work on getting you your money back.  If this whole thing was because of a performer getting angry it may not have even been you that she was talking about, but the performer&#8217;s can be kinda snotty too sadly from experience with asshole&#8217;s (and some photographers lack tact when trying to get a great shot, myself included, without realizing they are being rude).  There are a lot of scantily clad ladies as part of the acts that go on there and they get hassled by tourists or people who don&#8217;t try to fit in to the night.  Its circus themed in general and almost everyone dresses up for the occasion so its easy to spot an outsider.  Unfortunately the muscle doesn&#8217;t like to see reason, so if you have a girl huffing off feeling like she was being hassled he&#8217;s not going to see reason because his whole life consists of people giving him excuses for their behavior and him being paid to remove the problem so that the majority can go on having fun.  Sadly, they don&#8217;t always get all the memo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I think mainly what I&#8217;m getting at is Blog&#8217;s let people rant all they want and feel empowered by their readers even after an apology has been made.  The Bohemian Carnival night is a lot of fun, the people are cool and don&#8217;t make that much money bringing us entertainment.  Its more than one circus troupe that comes to perform at these nights so there&#8217;s a lot of subgroups involved as well, not to mention the DNA lounge staff on top of that.  Its a lot of breaks in the chain.  The person who kicked you out should be held responsible and not the whole group.</p>
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