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	<title>Comments on: More DRM Crap From TiVo and HBO</title>
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		<title>By: MegaZone</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/10/more-drm-crap-from-tivo-and-hbo.html/comment-page-1#comment-11727</link>
		<dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Series3 is a CableCARD device.  CableCARD requires DRM support, period.  TiVo has no choice in the matter, at all - other than to not support CableCARD and therefore not record digital cable.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, TiVoToGo, which you note as &#039;good&#039;, only got the nod from the FCC when TiVo agreed to support Macrovision and transfer restrictions.  No DRM, no TiVoToGo approval.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clout?  What clout?  TiVo is a flea compared to the content providers.  They aren&#039;t even the largest DVR vendor.  If TiVo tries to make a stand, they&#039;ll be steamrolled - just like ReplayTV.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;DRM is a fact of life and in the current legal and business environment it is not viable for any CE vendor to take a stand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Any vendor who, say, took MythTV and sold pre-made DVRs based on it, with all the open transfers, etc, would get sued as soon as they got big enough to get on the radar.  There are a few small vendors who get away with it only because they&#039;re too small to bother with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Series3 is a CableCARD device.  CableCARD requires DRM support, period.  TiVo has no choice in the matter, at all &#8211; other than to not support CableCARD and therefore not record digital cable.</p>
<p>Also, TiVoToGo, which you note as &#8216;good&#8217;, only got the nod from the FCC when TiVo agreed to support Macrovision and transfer restrictions.  No DRM, no TiVoToGo approval.</p>
<p>Clout?  What clout?  TiVo is a flea compared to the content providers.  They aren&#8217;t even the largest DVR vendor.  If TiVo tries to make a stand, they&#8217;ll be steamrolled &#8211; just like ReplayTV.</p>
<p>DRM is a fact of life and in the current legal and business environment it is not viable for any CE vendor to take a stand.</p>
<p>Any vendor who, say, took MythTV and sold pre-made DVRs based on it, with all the open transfers, etc, would get sued as soon as they got big enough to get on the radar.  There are a few small vendors who get away with it only because they&#8217;re too small to bother with.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Morton</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/10/more-drm-crap-from-tivo-and-hbo.html/comment-page-1#comment-11728</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how people equate being anti-DRM with being pro-piracy. I prefer to look at it as being pro-Fair Use.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have no plan to steal movies or music; however, I would like to watch/listen to content that I pay for on any device that I choose.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;BTW, Thomas, your response cracked me up:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;tristan, the last time I checked I didn&#039;t have DRM on my photographs.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how people equate being anti-DRM with being pro-piracy. I prefer to look at it as being pro-Fair Use.</p>
<p>I have no plan to steal movies or music; however, I would like to watch/listen to content that I pay for on any device that I choose.</p>
<p>BTW, Thomas, your response cracked me up:</p>
<p>&#8220;tristan, the last time I checked I didn&#8217;t have DRM on my photographs.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/10/more-drm-crap-from-tivo-and-hbo.html/comment-page-1#comment-11729</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tristan, the last time I checked I didn&#039;t have DRM on my photographs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tristan, the last time I checked I didn&#8217;t have DRM on my photographs.</p>
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		<title>By: phototristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>phototristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me either. You wouldn&#039;t want someone stealing your photographs, why would you condone being able to steal movies and such? Why the double standard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me either. You wouldn&#8217;t want someone stealing your photographs, why would you condone being able to steal movies and such? Why the double standard?</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/10/more-drm-crap-from-tivo-and-hbo.html/comment-page-1#comment-11731</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 16:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not DRM that&#039;s the problem, it&#039;s bad implementations of it, and in reality, the vast majority of consumers benefit from well-implemented DRM, since it gives content owners the confidence that their material won&#039;t be stolen [easily].&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry, Thomas.  I don&#039;t buy the &quot;DRM is evil&quot; argument, and I&#039;ve heard it made so many times here and elsewhere that I&#039;m just tuning out.  Bitterness doesn&#039;t make a compelling, logical argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not DRM that&#8217;s the problem, it&#8217;s bad implementations of it, and in reality, the vast majority of consumers benefit from well-implemented DRM, since it gives content owners the confidence that their material won&#8217;t be stolen [easily].</p>
<p>Sorry, Thomas.  I don&#8217;t buy the &#8220;DRM is evil&#8221; argument, and I&#8217;ve heard it made so many times here and elsewhere that I&#8217;m just tuning out.  Bitterness doesn&#8217;t make a compelling, logical argument.</p>
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