Comments on: An Open Letter to the Editor of American Photo Magazine http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html Sat, 26 May 2012 02:31:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Max http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14039 Max Wed, 04 Oct 2006 13:51:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14039 Shame on you, Paul, evidently you have no respect for children. It's easy to mock at the weakness of children who have a craving for candy. Do you know why they are addicted to candy? Who get them used to consume piles of candy until they teeth rot? Parents and grandparents. Children are longing for candy like adults are longing for cigarettes, coffee or alcohol, the legal drugs of a consumer society. You want to evoke anger in an adult? Try to take away any semiluxury food, drink or tobacco from an adult consumer. If you'd undress an adult standing in the limelight, surrounded by strangers, and send off the partner, many adults would freak out! Would you call them crybabies? Shame on you, Paul, evidently you have no respect for children. It’s easy to mock at the weakness of children who have a craving for candy. Do you know why they are addicted to candy? Who get them used to consume piles of candy until they teeth rot? Parents and grandparents. Children are longing for candy like adults are longing for cigarettes, coffee or alcohol, the legal drugs of a consumer society. You want to evoke anger in an adult? Try to take away any semiluxury food, drink or tobacco from an adult consumer. If you’d undress an adult standing in the limelight, surrounded by strangers, and send off the partner, many adults would freak out! Would you call them crybabies?

]]> By: Paul G. http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14040 Paul G. Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:32:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14040 And putting peanut butter on a kids face to get a dog to lick it for a photograph is abuse too.<br />I've posted over on flickr and your other post on this.<br />Yoiur "opinion" is not an opinion, it's a fabrication and I agree with Jill's husband - it's slander.<br />These photographs are fine pieces of work, beyond your talent and skills and what really irks you (and it's painfully apparent) is the political connection made of them.<br /><br />Visit your local grocery story and just look at all the "abused" kids wailing away in the shopping carts.<br />These kids weren't harmed or even provoked the were coached - just like you coach them for a smile, or a serious look with a story.<br />In this case the result is a few tears a natural part of childhood.<br />Shame on you for making it out to be anything worse. And putting peanut butter on a kids face to get a dog to lick it for a photograph is abuse too.
I’ve posted over on flickr and your other post on this.
Yoiur “opinion” is not an opinion, it’s a fabrication and I agree with Jill’s husband – it’s slander.
These photographs are fine pieces of work, beyond your talent and skills and what really irks you (and it’s painfully apparent) is the political connection made of them.

Visit your local grocery story and just look at all the “abused” kids wailing away in the shopping carts.
These kids weren’t harmed or even provoked the were coached – just like you coach them for a smile, or a serious look with a story.
In this case the result is a few tears a natural part of childhood.
Shame on you for making it out to be anything worse.

]]> By: John Hancock http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14041 John Hancock Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:30:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14041 Thanks for posting that. I didn't know they would have censored free speech...especially one that they asked for and provided space for.<br /><br />I've alwyas thought of it as a cheap rag anyway...this just reinforces it.<br /><br />Thanks again. Thanks for posting that. I didn’t know they would have censored free speech…especially one that they asked for and provided space for.

I’ve alwyas thought of it as a cheap rag anyway…this just reinforces it.

Thanks again.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14042 Anonymous Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:51:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14042 Thomas, I wanted you to know that there were many objections to this photographer and article on the "Respond to American Photo" section of the Popular Photography and Imaging web forum, and this discussion has been removed from the forum without comment by the American Photo forum operators. American Photo has a long history of using sexism and sensationalism to sell their rag and publicising Greenberg's 'project' is nothing more than an extension into exploiting children to sell magazines. Yes, it's sickening, but not surprising that American Photo wants to suppress any discussion of this subject and their lack of ethics and decency. Thomas, I wanted you to know that there were many objections to this photographer and article on the “Respond to American Photo” section of the Popular Photography and Imaging web forum, and this discussion has been removed from the forum without comment by the American Photo forum operators. American Photo has a long history of using sexism and sensationalism to sell their rag and publicising Greenberg’s ‘project’ is nothing more than an extension into exploiting children to sell magazines. Yes, it’s sickening, but not surprising that American Photo wants to suppress any discussion of this subject and their lack of ethics and decency.

]]> By: John Hancock http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14043 John Hancock Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:57:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14043 Robert Green said... <br />"and by the way, this comment will live on my blog as well.<br /><br />http://anothergreenworld.blogspot.com<br /><br />have a nice day."<br /><br />Obviously it is not. Seems you have deleted all your abusive remarks. Well it might just come back to bite you in the butt...I archived it!<br /><br />LOL Robert Green said…
“and by the way, this comment will live on my blog as well.

http://anothergreenworld.blogspot.com

have a nice day.”

Obviously it is not. Seems you have deleted all your abusive remarks. Well it might just come back to bite you in the butt…I archived it!

LOL

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14044 Anonymous Sun, 02 Jul 2006 11:47:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14044 Open letters are for people with no clout Open letters are for people with no clout

]]> By: Jordan http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14045 Jordan Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:43:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14045 I'm the father of a 1 1/2 year old, and at first after having read Thomas Hawk's post, and seeing the photo series in question, I felt the shots were inappropriate.<br /><br />HOWEVER... child abuse is a VERY serious accusation, and throwing that around is also inappropriate.<br /><br />I for one have photographed my kid having a temper tantrum -- and while I didn't induce the tantrum, I did delay comforting him in order to take a snapshot. Child abuse? Don't think so. I don't think actual victims of child abuse would think so either. I’m the father of a 1 1/2 year old, and at first after having read Thomas Hawk’s post, and seeing the photo series in question, I felt the shots were inappropriate.

HOWEVER… child abuse is a VERY serious accusation, and throwing that around is also inappropriate.

I for one have photographed my kid having a temper tantrum — and while I didn’t induce the tantrum, I did delay comforting him in order to take a snapshot. Child abuse? Don’t think so. I don’t think actual victims of child abuse would think so either.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14046 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:31:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14046 Robert Green - thanks for confirming that Jill isn't the only fucking creep in the family. Robert Green – thanks for confirming that Jill isn’t the only fucking creep in the family.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14047 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:50:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14047 Tim...<br /><br />I mean, of course, self-righteous Thomas Hawk and self-righteous Jill Greenberg. Both pushing for the moral high ground; It's like seeing two kids fight over a sandcastle. Tim…

I mean, of course, self-righteous Thomas Hawk and self-righteous Jill Greenberg. Both pushing for the moral high ground; It’s like seeing two kids fight over a sandcastle.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/06/open-letter-to-editor-of-american.html/comment-page-1#comment-14048 Anonymous Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:48:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2000#comment-14048 Tim...<br /><br />Wow. Just let it go and get a life. Why are you both being so moralistic about all this? Just agree to disagree and get over it, both of you. Or I'm going to take both your lollipops away. Tim…

Wow. Just let it go and get a life. Why are you both being so moralistic about all this? Just agree to disagree and get over it, both of you. Or I’m going to take both your lollipops away.

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