Bruce, get your head out of your a**. From looking at your ugly mug in the picture, you are about as pasty white as it gets. Where the hell do you get off saying a single word about racism when you have no clue about it? You’re pasty white!! You have no clue and even worse, you’re too ignorant to know when too keep your mouth shut about things you don’t know anything about.

Fair enough, if you do have immigrant ancestors, then you yourself are an “alien” in one way or another, so I was pointing out how strange it is you write “ILLEGAL ALIENS” in big capital letters when you are from partly immigrant ancestors.

Don’t you get it??!! 100yrs. doesn’t make any difference, regardless of how much you want to hide behind your KKK mask.

It’s pathetic to hear your try to dismiss anyone’s claim about racism…I suppose you also think racism isn’t a problem in the US or perhaps doesn’t even exist in your eyes right?

Keep living in ignorance if you wish. But for god’s sake at least go get a tan pasty white boy!

Wow, do you really believe all that!? That’s harsh. I mean, in some cases it’s true but making such generalization about certain races makes you seem more like a prejudiced/ignorant smug.

Yep, keep telling yourself that and maybe one day it will come true.

Of course the expense associated with all of the various legal mumbo jumbo crap is saved so that makes it cheaper to hire and certainly the fact that most don’t pay taxes on this money also makes it worth more.

I have no problem with this though. I feel that these people are mostly poor and I’m helping them. They are hard workers and do good work and are happy to work on weekends when I’m around the house.

I have, by the way, gone to the yellow pages in the past to look to hire painters (as we know that they are not down at the Home Depot waiting to pick up work) and have been generally unsatisfied with the results.

First off you have to deal with crazy over the top bids. It probably cost me $3,000 in labor and materials to have my house painted by the guys down at the home depot. For the same painting job I’ll get bids of $20,000 or more. Part of the problem is that I live in a reasonably affluent area and I think in general painting services think that since people live in affluent areas that they could and should pay more.

But $20,000 is ridiculous. Secondly you have to deal with attitude. I had one painter who was a real pain the ass. The guy hounded me when I wouldn’t give him the over priced work and kept arguing how much better his painting was and how professional he was. The estimate was a huge chore with this guy bemoaning all the difficult aspects of painting my last house, shaking his head and in the end getting upset with me.

Obviously my experience is unique to me but I have no ethical problem hiring someone and paying them $12 per hour to paint and I actually feel better that I’m helping someone who probably needs it the most out.

Good luck with that, by the way.

I guess all that makes you an excellent candidate for the KKK or any other race supremacy silly movement

Heh. Well, let’s see. *MY* parents were born here. THEIR parents were born here. THEIR parents emigrated here from various locations around the beginning of the 20th century. Legally.

Racism is the cry of the small-minded troll who has no real arguement, but can’t stand losing.

Oh, and my great-great-great grandfather on my mother’s side? Cherokee. Thenkyewveddymuch, buh-bai!

Thanks for contributing to the problem.”

No, the problem is that in my shop, I am forced by the US and NY governments to pay for workers compensation insurance for all of my workers, to pay for their social security taxes, to pay health insurance premiums for them, and disability insurance for them. Those fees are before we even get to their actual wages.

These costs come directly from our bottom line. Margins are now razor thin, and because our country competes on a global playing field, raising prices isn’t an option. A shipment of goods from China can come from a shop where the employers are not burdened with any of these costs, while also enjoying the benefit of paying much lower wages than even our illegal aliens receive in the US. How can I compete with Chinese goods when our government insists on burdening me and other small business owners with these fixed costs?

I do not know enough about how illegal immigrants impacts the U.S. job market to comment on this point. But deporting all those who are currently here is not a viable solution. What do those who favor it see as the benefits? Will it create more jobs for Americans? Will it raise wages? Will it enable corporations to operate more efficiently? …. Or is this all just for show and tell?