Comments on: Are You a DISH Customer With a DISH DVR? Good Luck With That Next Month Pal. Thoughts on TiVo’s First Quarter Earnings Conference Call http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:09:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14451 Anonymous Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:03:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14451 I guessing you have a tivo unit. They are slow and have no HDTV abilities. your opinion is onesided. <br />Dish will win this there is no way they will shut down millions of boxes. Even if it comes to them buying out Tivo.<br />As for Tivo earnings from wht I heard they are struggling because they have so much competition and this is a last ditch effort to survive. I guessing you have a tivo unit. They are slow and have no HDTV abilities. your opinion is onesided.
Dish will win this there is no way they will shut down millions of boxes. Even if it comes to them buying out Tivo.
As for Tivo earnings from wht I heard they are struggling because they have so much competition and this is a last ditch effort to survive.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14452 Anonymous Tue, 30 May 2006 01:18:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14452 Paul - I agree with you, I experienced and incident with some intellectual property nuts just last night. I had gone to the cinema, planning to see the new X-Men 3 film. Long lines for tickets, and only late shows were available. Unfortunately, I'm apt to fall asleep in a dark theaters at that time of night, so brought my Sony camcorder with to record the film, enabling me to view it at a time when I can stay awake. You wouldn't believe the comments and threats I received from the staff of the theater! I explained to them how I had fully paid for my right to the film, and that my recording of the film is simply my way of exerting my right to fair use and insuring that I will see the entire film should I fall asleep in the theater. They refused to run off a copy of the film for me, and also refused to allow me to record the film with my camcorder. On and on about intellectual property and copyrights. All nonsense. Paul – I agree with you, I experienced and incident with some intellectual property nuts just last night. I had gone to the cinema, planning to see the new X-Men 3 film. Long lines for tickets, and only late shows were available. Unfortunately, I’m apt to fall asleep in a dark theaters at that time of night, so brought my Sony camcorder with to record the film, enabling me to view it at a time when I can stay awake. You wouldn’t believe the comments and threats I received from the staff of the theater! I explained to them how I had fully paid for my right to the film, and that my recording of the film is simply my way of exerting my right to fair use and insuring that I will see the entire film should I fall asleep in the theater. They refused to run off a copy of the film for me, and also refused to allow me to record the film with my camcorder. On and on about intellectual property and copyrights. All nonsense.

]]> By: Paul L. McCord Jr. http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14453 Paul L. McCord Jr. Sun, 28 May 2006 09:31:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14453 Megazone, <br />I don't see it as stealing. This is no different than using a VCR. Set the timer and watch it later. I have disagreed with patents from the beginning. I believe that consumers will choose which is the better product. If you could just keep the courts out of our daily lives, we would be so much better off. This idea that courts are objective and neutral is a myth. Have you ever been to a trial? Emotions trump facts every day. Play some sad music and people cave. I guess we come from different worlds because I don't believe in intellectual property. Let the consumers choose. Competition is good. Lawyers bad.<br /><br />Just my opinion. Megazone,
I don’t see it as stealing. This is no different than using a VCR. Set the timer and watch it later. I have disagreed with patents from the beginning. I believe that consumers will choose which is the better product. If you could just keep the courts out of our daily lives, we would be so much better off. This idea that courts are objective and neutral is a myth. Have you ever been to a trial? Emotions trump facts every day. Play some sad music and people cave. I guess we come from different worlds because I don’t believe in intellectual property. Let the consumers choose. Competition is good. Lawyers bad.

Just my opinion.

]]> By: MegaZone http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14454 MegaZone Fri, 26 May 2006 18:49:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14454 Paul - Why should DISH be rewarded for willfully stealing TiVo's patents? Remember that the jury found that they willfully used TiVo's patents without licensing them. This wasn't coincidental development or infringement due to ignorance. You are way off base blaming TiVo. Blame DISH for putting you, and all their DVR customers, into the situation. DISH can resolve it too - all they need to do is license the patents from TiVo as others have done. TiVo isn't the bad guy if your DVR is turned off, DISH is. They sold you something they didn't have the right to sell you. It is no better than a thief selling you stolen goods - would you blame the original owner for taking them back from you, or the thief?<br /><br />Anonymous - No, you're confusing two things. The $19.95/month deal is from TiVo.com and if you go that route the TiVo is *free*, it is bundled. Actually a standard S2 is free, if you want the S2DT there is a $30 upgrade fee. The %19.95/month fee has a one year commitment, after that you can drop it to $12.95/month. $18.95/month carries a 2 year commitment, and $16.95/month three years - and both can be dropped to $12.95/month once the commitment is up. There are also pre-paid bundles where you can pay it all upfront and save more.<br /><br />If you buy a box at retail, then you get the $12.95/month rate. The trade-off is that you're paying more upfront to get the box, instead of paying a little bit more ot get the box included. Paul – Why should DISH be rewarded for willfully stealing TiVo’s patents? Remember that the jury found that they willfully used TiVo’s patents without licensing them. This wasn’t coincidental development or infringement due to ignorance. You are way off base blaming TiVo. Blame DISH for putting you, and all their DVR customers, into the situation. DISH can resolve it too – all they need to do is license the patents from TiVo as others have done. TiVo isn’t the bad guy if your DVR is turned off, DISH is. They sold you something they didn’t have the right to sell you. It is no better than a thief selling you stolen goods – would you blame the original owner for taking them back from you, or the thief?

Anonymous – No, you’re confusing two things. The $19.95/month deal is from TiVo.com and if you go that route the TiVo is *free*, it is bundled. Actually a standard S2 is free, if you want the S2DT there is a $30 upgrade fee. The %19.95/month fee has a one year commitment, after that you can drop it to $12.95/month. $18.95/month carries a 2 year commitment, and $16.95/month three years – and both can be dropped to $12.95/month once the commitment is up. There are also pre-paid bundles where you can pay it all upfront and save more.

If you buy a box at retail, then you get the $12.95/month rate. The trade-off is that you’re paying more upfront to get the box, instead of paying a little bit more ot get the box included.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14455 Anonymous Thu, 25 May 2006 23:21:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14455 $19.95 a month?! That's just for the guide service? Then I have to lay out $150, upfront, for the dual-tuner DVR?<br /><br />Or I can just give my cable company $15 a month for everything, and let them worry about install and maintainence on it? $19.95 a month?! That’s just for the guide service? Then I have to lay out $150, upfront, for the dual-tuner DVR?

Or I can just give my cable company $15 a month for everything, and let them worry about install and maintainence on it?

]]> By: The Jamoker http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14456 The Jamoker Thu, 25 May 2006 05:07:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14456 I have DISH. I'll pass along news of whatever they do. I have DISH. I’ll pass along news of whatever they do.

]]> By: Phil http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14457 Phil Thu, 25 May 2006 04:49:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14457 I am so glad I got the lifetime Tivo subscription now... good grief. That and they no longer offer it.... I am so glad I got the lifetime Tivo subscription now… good grief. That and they no longer offer it….

]]> By: Paul L. McCord Jr. http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/are-you-a-dish-customer-with-a-dish-dvr-good-luck-with-that-next-month-pal-thoughts-on-tivos-first-quarter-earnings-conference-call.html/comment-page-1#comment-14458 Paul L. McCord Jr. Wed, 24 May 2006 17:49:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2036#comment-14458 I am not a typical customer I guess because I will not be looking for another provider. In fact, when people do things like this, it makes me go out of my way to avoid the perpetrator. This will make me avoid things that have anything to do with Tivo. I am a happy Dish Network customer and will not leave them to go to DirecTV to get Tivo. I would rather do without than to have some company tell me who I can do business with. This business of sue sue sue when you can't sell products is against the laws of economics. Just my opinion.<br />Paul I am not a typical customer I guess because I will not be looking for another provider. In fact, when people do things like this, it makes me go out of my way to avoid the perpetrator. This will make me avoid things that have anything to do with Tivo. I am a happy Dish Network customer and will not leave them to go to DirecTV to get Tivo. I would rather do without than to have some company tell me who I can do business with. This business of sue sue sue when you can’t sell products is against the laws of economics. Just my opinion.
Paul

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