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	<title>Comments on: Apologies Galore, Why I Owe One to Tim O&#8217;Reilly</title>
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		<title>By: digitaljhelms</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14393</link>
		<dc:creator>digitaljhelms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that writing and yet you still miss the true point of it all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Essentially, O&#039;Reilly HAS trademarked a term he didn&#039;t even coin, and even goes as far to say that Web 2.0 is a concept he created, and this is A-OK with you? He states [virtually] point-blank in his &quot;letter&quot; to the World that his intent IS to protect the term &quot;Web 2.0&quot; from being used by anyone other than himself.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Just to be clear, neither CMP or O&#039;Reilly is claiming the right to all use of the term Web 2.0, as some of the posters assert. We just want to keep other conference companies from putting on events that trade on the name and concept that we created.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What a joke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, by your thoughts, it would be sufficient to trademark the word-term &quot;Mix&quot; for use in conference titles and then send Microsoft a C&D; letter when they throw Mix &#039;07..? C&#039;mon, think about it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that writing and yet you still miss the true point of it all.</p>
<p>Essentially, O&#8217;Reilly HAS trademarked a term he didn&#8217;t even coin, and even goes as far to say that Web 2.0 is a concept he created, and this is A-OK with you? He states [virtually] point-blank in his &#8220;letter&#8221; to the World that his intent IS to protect the term &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; from being used by anyone other than himself.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just to be clear, neither CMP or O&#8217;Reilly is claiming the right to all use of the term Web 2.0, as some of the posters assert. We just want to keep other conference companies from putting on events that trade on the name and concept that we created.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a joke.</p>
<p>So, by your thoughts, it would be sufficient to trademark the word-term &#8220;Mix&#8221; for use in conference titles and then send Microsoft a C&#038;D; letter when they throw Mix &#8216;07..? C&#8217;mon, think about it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pb</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14394</link>
		<dc:creator>pb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quit beating yourself up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;ve proved the world what an asshole you are. Try spending less time online and less time sucking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit beating yourself up.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve proved the world what an asshole you are. Try spending less time online and less time sucking up.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14395</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah User Friendly just got around to commenting on this very thing:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060606</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah User Friendly just got around to commenting on this very thing:</p>
<p><a href="http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060606" rel="nofollow">http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20060606</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Hawk</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14396</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Hawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous.  My apology is heartfelt.  I regret having written the original post.  It was not well thought out.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have apologized in the past and I&#039;m sure will need to apologize in the future.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Since I&#039;ve started blogging I&#039;ve written almost 3,300 posts.  Almost all of them I stand behind 100%.  But a few come to mind where I made mistakes and I think it&#039;s important to own up to them when this is the case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some immediate ones come to mind.  I once blasted the TiVo blog for being lame corporate blog.  TiVo actually subsequently improved their corporate blog and I met with a TiVo manager to discuss ways that TiVo could improve.  My initial tone was unusually harsh though and while the TiVo blog was lame I was too strong in my language.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I also recall apologizing about a year ago for blasting flickr when I first started using it and thought that they were restricting people from downloading images when in fact this was an optional setting that is controlled by the flickr user and designed to give them more control over their images.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I may have apologized about other things in the past as well but none come to mind immediately.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But I will make mistakes as we all do and I&#039;ve always believed that the best thing to do when making a mistake is to own up to it.  Believe me, I&#039;d rather not be apologizing and am going to be very careful in the future about trying not to be put in a position where I have to apologize.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh and I apologized a while back in a Flickr forum for grandstanding and manipulating a new image ranking site just to show that it could be done.  It wasn&#039;t the best way to handle that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But do know that my apology to Tim is quite sincere.  The first poster in the comments here.  Also is not Tim.  Tim wrote me and thanked me for the apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous.  My apology is heartfelt.  I regret having written the original post.  It was not well thought out.  </p>
<p>I have apologized in the past and I&#8217;m sure will need to apologize in the future.  </p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve started blogging I&#8217;ve written almost 3,300 posts.  Almost all of them I stand behind 100%.  But a few come to mind where I made mistakes and I think it&#8217;s important to own up to them when this is the case.</p>
<p>Some immediate ones come to mind.  I once blasted the TiVo blog for being lame corporate blog.  TiVo actually subsequently improved their corporate blog and I met with a TiVo manager to discuss ways that TiVo could improve.  My initial tone was unusually harsh though and while the TiVo blog was lame I was too strong in my language.</p>
<p>I also recall apologizing about a year ago for blasting flickr when I first started using it and thought that they were restricting people from downloading images when in fact this was an optional setting that is controlled by the flickr user and designed to give them more control over their images.  </p>
<p>I may have apologized about other things in the past as well but none come to mind immediately.  </p>
<p>But I will make mistakes as we all do and I&#8217;ve always believed that the best thing to do when making a mistake is to own up to it.  Believe me, I&#8217;d rather not be apologizing and am going to be very careful in the future about trying not to be put in a position where I have to apologize.</p>
<p>Oh and I apologized a while back in a Flickr forum for grandstanding and manipulating a new image ranking site just to show that it could be done.  It wasn&#8217;t the best way to handle that.</p>
<p>But do know that my apology to Tim is quite sincere.  The first poster in the comments here.  Also is not Tim.  Tim wrote me and thanked me for the apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14397</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 07:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I first started reading your blog after you linked to mine, and find that you have some very good content.  However, I seem to recall a similar apology in recent past by you.  However, I can&#039;t remember what it was all about.  I&#039;m starting to believe that these apologies aren&#039;t that heartfelt, and that your initial blasts are just a means to be more sensational and get more readers. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that your content is good enough that you really don&#039;t need to provide any sensationalism.  That&#039;s just my two cents.  Other than that, keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p>
<p>I first started reading your blog after you linked to mine, and find that you have some very good content.  However, I seem to recall a similar apology in recent past by you.  However, I can&#8217;t remember what it was all about.  I&#8217;m starting to believe that these apologies aren&#8217;t that heartfelt, and that your initial blasts are just a means to be more sensational and get more readers. </p>
<p>I think that your content is good enough that you really don&#8217;t need to provide any sensationalism.  That&#8217;s just my two cents.  Other than that, keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14398</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly believe that your initial malicious comments were for no reason other than link-bait.  I will no longer link to you and encourage others to not fall for this mirage of an apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly believe that your initial malicious comments were for no reason other than link-bait.  I will no longer link to you and encourage others to not fall for this mirage of an apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14399</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there there...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;lets all have a group hug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there there&#8230;</p>
<p>lets all have a group hug.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14400</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 03:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m going to be sick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m going to be sick&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Right said Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right said Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 00:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They&#039;ve even offered to let IT@Cork use the service mark this year&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thomas - IT@Cork are based in Ireland. ORAs service has no jurisdiction outside of the US.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They might as well have offered to let IT@Cork use the term &quot;conference&quot; in their title. They have as much rights over the term &quot;Conference&quot; outside the US as they do &quot;Web 2.0&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They&#8217;ve even offered to let IT@Cork use the service mark this year&#8221;</p>
<p>Thomas &#8211; IT@Cork are based in Ireland. ORAs service has no jurisdiction outside of the US.</p>
<p>They might as well have offered to let IT@Cork use the term &#8220;conference&#8221; in their title. They have as much rights over the term &#8220;Conference&#8221; outside the US as they do &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: stewart</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2006/05/apologies-galore-why-i-owe-one-to-tim.html/comment-page-1#comment-14402</link>
		<dc:creator>stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas, thanks for writing that - glad you&#039;ve come around. I don&#039;t have a strong opinion either way about the appropriateness (legally or morally) of the service mark but the lynchmob left a bad taste in my mouth. I think it was wrong to call him an asshole (factually, and as a matter of decorum/tact) but I wouldn&#039;t sweat it that much: apologizing has a way of smoothin&#039; and soothin&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, thanks for writing that &#8211; glad you&#8217;ve come around. I don&#8217;t have a strong opinion either way about the appropriateness (legally or morally) of the service mark but the lynchmob left a bad taste in my mouth. I think it was wrong to call him an asshole (factually, and as a matter of decorum/tact) but I wouldn&#8217;t sweat it that much: apologizing has a way of smoothin&#8217; and soothin&#8217;.</p>
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