I rush to play it, sign up to all this crap that I hadn’t expected only to find out that I need to install the game. As you can imagine, this annoyed me, but i thought “ok whatever, i’ll just leave it on while I do something else, it isn’t a big deal” so after about an hour, I get the install running.

However, I keep running into a problem. The problem being that it won’t install. every time it gets to “50 minutes remaining” it comes up with an error saying “an error has occured, the installation will now exit” or something along those lines. It’s done this 4 times now and it’s always at the same point. I’ve searched everywhere and nowhere does it say what to do.

Also I signed up to Xbox live and Play Online just so I could try this out, only to find that I can’t play the game so I am now paying for 2 things that I don’t even want just so I can look at an installation screen over and over.

Has anyone got any ideas on what to do? I want to finally be able to try out this game on my 360 so I can see what it’s like. Any help would be great.

Thanks – Garithas

Something should be made more obvious, and actually the annoyiong thing is this game is so old… i figured on xbox360… it comes with a hardraive and is supposed to be a better system, ok why the hell can;t the graphics look better, it takes a simple program to redo graphics and touch them up… yeah the ps2 system can;t see the new graphics, but hey. the ps3 could. but the game was cheap compared to PS2, where you had to buy the harddrive with the game, but unlike what people say the the harddrive was not ONLY made for the game… if you could wireup another harddrive, you could buy the comp version, borrow a ps2 version from a friend and install it using your codes.

But the fact that you are a gamer and have NO gamer friends…. how the hell do you consider yourself a gamer, the only reason i play games is to play with friends. or in a few cases i play them solo.

i also got FFXI but i did know about the fee before hand, cause so many people were talking about it. i stopped playing the game.. unless you JOIN the game at the same time as some friends i just found it not to be worth it. i had a friend who was really into the game, lvl 75 in a few jobs and gonna be soon in others… my top job is a lvl 34 whm.. and bl;m lvl 24 i don;t mind playing with new people, i had some great times. but if you start the game NOW. well it has been out too long. there aren;t many low lvl people out. i am hoping Square-enix will let this game die sometime, and make a new FF some future version that is also an MMORPG like this one, and i plan on joining it at the beginning. but the monthly fee is a huge thing with the game and so many peolple here are either complaining ir saying it has always been like that… BOTH sides are ebing stupid here, it is a new thing… srry D2 (diablo2) still gets some updates and it is free to play online. of course they don;t put that much work into it. now FFXI has a lot of people playing the game… they have to keep all servers bug free and everyhting. quite often something goes wrong and without a FULL support team this game could be going offline for days at a time, as it is they tend to fix the glitch within a couple days, and leave the rest of the game running. and server is down for maybe 8 hours during maintence… sometimes longer when they are putting in a patch. and by the way, 2 hours patching is nothing for what you got… i’ve had friends who had 10 hrs of patching when they got the game cause they happened to get it when some new update was put out and EVERYONE was patching… so they would turn it on, instlall it, let it patch and go do SOEMTHING ELSE… srry but if you have a life period. you can start your game patching and FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO… in my case i read a book… but then i really liek to read. you could go play basket ball, run, practice breakdancing or well anyhting.

also i heard some insults directed at lower ages, i am a CASUAL gamer, not hardcore. i don;t play many gamnes and one of my favs is super smash bros melee, cause i can play with my friends… but i skim the web when i’m bored and find lots of stuff that is obviously untrue or true and twisted… or just plain stupid… after reading the comments i think “John Lucas” had the best points over all, and the playonline service is FREE yeah that what i said, FREE.. and INCLUDED WITH THE GAME. so the fact that you need tos ign up for it shouldn;t matter much at all. and the sticker says ONE MONTH FREE ONLINE PLAY.

ok i started rambling and repeating my self… ok so quick bullet points.

1. MMORPGS cost money to upkeep and upgrade, common knowledge if oyu consider yourself ANY kind of gamer and at all levels hell even many non-gamers know about these

2. yeah packaging shoudl be more explicit and more obvious but mby legal law it doesn;t have to be
… ever heard the saying “READ THE FINE PRINT”
yes it is REAL advice and a good thing to ALWAYS keep in mind

yes ONLINE may be considered fine print, but hey, play attention to anyhting, jsut glicing at it, i could tell it was text and i read it. in most cases it is a title for the game, for a fake example,

Something 2:
the return of something (the resturn of something whould be in small text just like online is, even framed witht he same style line. usiong the main title as a selling point and the secondary line is the actual name of the game.

another thing someone brought up, NINTENDO, yes they are cool, and they said nintendo should always be there or gaming will die. well guess what from the runble feature to the joystick, NINTENDO did ti FIRST. so if you really want good games. lets all buy NINTENDO’s and if everyone does… al the good companies with switch back top nintendo cause they will have all the money. i’m doing my part are you doing yours? (yeah the last one was random but hey. it’s true)

oh yeah another random fact. THE AVERAGE AGE OF GAMERS IS… take a guess 18, 19? WRONG, it’s 29!!! wow that means that approx HALF of gamers are over 30… wait a second… how many of those gamers are living with mommy and daddy? not many, most of them have GOOD fullt ime jobs and pay for everyhting, guys a FULL tiem job is 40 hrs a week, you have 24 X 7 hrs a week, which is 128 hrs of extra time that you AREN:T working. each week!. yeah some of that is sleep. but you don;t need 10 hrs of sleep. and you don;t have to play thins game 40 rhs a week, i got to lvl 34 by playing maybe on average 6 hrs a week maybe 6, most of the time i would play a coupld hours on sat and maybe a few fri or sunday thoiugh most of the time i was hangin out with friends. doing other stuff.

thanx and bye, and i won;t check this again, i was actually looking to see if there were car decals with ffxi images on it and this poped up in google… and i read it. and put in my 2 cents and guess what. i learn a lot of stuff this way. but for everything in life. even if it is proven ask others if they thought it was good. NOT FOR SPOILERS, just Yes it was good, no it wasn;t, no i had to pay a stupid monthly fee. etc. those would be your answers… honestly.

That’s not the Western and Japanese MMO billing model you are describing. It sounds more like you are describing the Korean model.

Western and Japanese MMOs charge you a flat fee per time period to play, and the service is up almost that entire period, except for regularly scheduled maintenance. FFXI is up most of the month except for about 8 hours of patching the game, and about a day of maintaining the registration servers at the beginning of the month. You’re paying for a persistent world that progresses even when you aren’t active, and them constantly adding content to the game that extends the playability to thousands of hours or tens of thousands of hours, versus the static content in an offline game that provides at most a couple hundred of hours, but more often in the tens of hours.

If you want to see insane billing policies, try looking at some Korean MMOs, like Maple Story. There’s no monthly fee for that, but they have two forms of currency in the game, GOLD and CASH. GOLD is dropped by monsters and earned through quests and normal gameplay. CASH is only generated by you paying the company that runs the MMO real money. Stores sell items that are buyable with either, but also exclusive items that are only buyable with one or the other. Wizet recently released an accessory in Maple Story that eliminates the experience loss from dying, but it only stays in your inventory for a limited amount of real time, and is only purchasable with CASH. I’ve been told the cost equates to about $10 per item for that accessory, and it only lasts about 2 weeks. I’m not even sure if it breaks when you die, instead of you taking the experience loss. I’ve seen this tactic in other Korean online games, such as Gunbound. The Western model is much more reasonable. Most Western MMOs outlaw the sale of in-game items, entities, and currency for real currency in their service agreements, so you just pay the flat rate and invest your time to get any items the game has to offer, and it’s relatively less expensive for how much you spend per hour you play, assuming you get into it and play it like they intend you to.