Comments on: TiVo to Offer Subscription Only Pricing Model, HDTV Series Three TiVo Due Out “After Mid Year” and Lifetime Service Option to be Eliminated http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:21:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15746 Anonymous Wed, 13 Sep 2006 06:09:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15746 I have TWO Tivo boxes with lifetime and prior to this BS, I could transfer this service to any other new box if something happened to the old one. How can they change this on me now? It's FRAUD!!! I now HATE Tivo and their business practices and will NOT recommend them to anyone else as I have done for so long now... I have TWO Tivo boxes with lifetime and prior to this BS, I could transfer this service to any other new box if something happened to the old one. How can they change this on me now? It’s FRAUD!!! I now HATE Tivo and their business practices and will NOT recommend them to anyone else as I have done for so long now…

]]> By: Vernon Mauery http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15747 Vernon Mauery Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:34:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15747 I was about a month away from ordering a new series2 with a lifetime subscription (monthly fees are a waste of money). But when I heard this news, I decided to ditch TiVo altogether in favor of a system that I wouldn't have to pay monthly fees. TiVo just lost another customer to MythTV. I figure I would have had to pay ~$400 to get started with TiVo and get my lifetime subscription. So I have a $400 budget to get a larger hard drive, a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 500, and a Hauppauge MediaMVP. Sounds like this latest business move is good for TiVo's wallet and bad for ours. So it is time for TiVo customers to do what we do to all overbearing companies: stick it to The Man. I was about a month away from ordering a new series2 with a lifetime subscription (monthly fees are a waste of money). But when I heard this news, I decided to ditch TiVo altogether in favor of a system that I wouldn’t have to pay monthly fees. TiVo just lost another customer to MythTV. I figure I would have had to pay ~$400 to get started with TiVo and get my lifetime subscription. So I have a $400 budget to get a larger hard drive, a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 500, and a Hauppauge MediaMVP. Sounds like this latest business move is good for TiVo’s wallet and bad for ours. So it is time for TiVo customers to do what we do to all overbearing companies: stick it to The Man.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15748 Anonymous Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:51:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15748 TiVo now wants to play the term lock-in game just like most cell phone companies. Perhaps they can find enough people who don't do the math. As for me, I refuse to comit to a cell phone contract -- I use pre-paid celluar. When my TiVo breaks, I will also reuse to agree to this nonsense. There are alternatives to TiVo servoce already. TiVo now wants to play the term lock-in game just like most cell phone companies. Perhaps they can find enough people who don’t do the math. As for me, I refuse to comit to a cell phone contract — I use pre-paid celluar. When my TiVo breaks, I will also reuse to agree to this nonsense. There are alternatives to TiVo servoce already.

]]> By: Shawn Grottola http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15749 Shawn Grottola Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:38:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15749 Wow, this is like a geeks gone mad convention. Everyone in this blog dumping Tivo is doing it because they may have to pay a monthly fee now. The lifetime subscription was nice if you never planned to upgrade the equipment(notice the biggest complainers are still rockin' series one units.) But really, do you get angry when you go into a restaurant and they don't feed you for free just because you ate there last month. Tivo is not a box and it is not a piece of hardware; it is a service, just like your cable, internet access, or rent. Whether it comes in a box from Tivo, Comcast, or maybe even space, it will be a part of my home theater, and if you don't get that, you don't get Tivo. If anyone here does decide to drop Tivo because of this change, I am sure their DIY media center PC with TitanTV and a sync to their PDA phone Bluetooth headset will look very nice hanging off the back of that TV in their Mom's basement. Wow, this is like a geeks gone mad convention. Everyone in this blog dumping Tivo is doing it because they may have to pay a monthly fee now. The lifetime subscription was nice if you never planned to upgrade the equipment(notice the biggest complainers are still rockin’ series one units.) But really, do you get angry when you go into a restaurant and they don’t feed you for free just because you ate there last month. Tivo is not a box and it is not a piece of hardware; it is a service, just like your cable, internet access, or rent. Whether it comes in a box from Tivo, Comcast, or maybe even space, it will be a part of my home theater, and if you don’t get that, you don’t get Tivo. If anyone here does decide to drop Tivo because of this change, I am sure their DIY media center PC with TitanTV and a sync to their PDA phone Bluetooth headset will look very nice hanging off the back of that TV in their Mom’s basement.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15750 Anonymous Thu, 09 Mar 2006 17:05:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15750 maxx, you CANNOT build an HTPC with cablecard support. The entire system has to be certitfied for support, meaning that even if the individual parts are certified, it won't work. If you want CC support in an HTPC, you will have to get a new PC that is certified from a major brand. <br /><br />That said, I think that TiVo is utterly rediculous. I had every intention of ditching my Sony HD DVR in favor of an HDTiVo, but now that isn't likely to happen. maxx, you CANNOT build an HTPC with cablecard support. The entire system has to be certitfied for support, meaning that even if the individual parts are certified, it won’t work. If you want CC support in an HTPC, you will have to get a new PC that is certified from a major brand.

That said, I think that TiVo is utterly rediculous. I had every intention of ditching my Sony HD DVR in favor of an HDTiVo, but now that isn’t likely to happen.

]]> By: Maxx http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15751 Maxx Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:40:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15751 TiVo made a choice to announce a pricing plan that does in fact alienate several existing subscriers and perhaps turns away potential new customers. They will however still be able to get new and repeat customers regardless of this, it's just the reality of business. If you want proof just take a look at your cable bill and see how many dinners your cable company owes you for the after-dinner antics they have engaged in for decades.<br /><br />I think the bottom line is that with MS Vista supporting CableCard and the inevitable entry of Apple into the sauce it makes sense that TiVo is trying to posture to reap some of the potential money that those people out there that have no interest in building their own boxes will be willing to spend.<br /><br />Personally I will just have to wait and see. Im tempted by the HDTiVo but with CableCard tech coming to my PC soon it may be a toss-up. But again that is because I CAN build a HTPC where most people I talk to CAN'T or won't. TiVo made a choice to announce a pricing plan that does in fact alienate several existing subscriers and perhaps turns away potential new customers. They will however still be able to get new and repeat customers regardless of this, it’s just the reality of business. If you want proof just take a look at your cable bill and see how many dinners your cable company owes you for the after-dinner antics they have engaged in for decades.

I think the bottom line is that with MS Vista supporting CableCard and the inevitable entry of Apple into the sauce it makes sense that TiVo is trying to posture to reap some of the potential money that those people out there that have no interest in building their own boxes will be willing to spend.

Personally I will just have to wait and see. Im tempted by the HDTiVo but with CableCard tech coming to my PC soon it may be a toss-up. But again that is because I CAN build a HTPC where most people I talk to CAN’T or won’t.

]]> By: vincenzio http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15752 vincenzio Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:34:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15752 I one a series one philips (bought in 2000 with lifetime.) I gave my brother a series one sony with lifetime. <br /><br />I was about to buy a series two with lifetime.<br /><br />Now I'm just not sure I want to be a TiVO customer anymore. <br /><br />I have to wonder what this model will do to customers in Canada who are about to get legit service and support, but up until now have hacked their guide info. I one a series one philips (bought in 2000 with lifetime.) I gave my brother a series one sony with lifetime.

I was about to buy a series two with lifetime.

Now I’m just not sure I want to be a TiVO customer anymore.

I have to wonder what this model will do to customers in Canada who are about to get legit service and support, but up until now have hacked their guide info.

]]> By: Chris http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15753 Chris Thu, 09 Mar 2006 10:19:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15753 Lifetime subscription was a primary reason to own a TiVo for me. Otherwise, it's easier/cheaper to build a MythTV box. I won't be upgrading to the Series 3 when it comes out. Lifetime subscription was a primary reason to own a TiVo for me. Otherwise, it’s easier/cheaper to build a MythTV box. I won’t be upgrading to the Series 3 when it comes out.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15754 Anonymous Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:54:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15754 With all the new pricing changes, it make building your own DVR look that much more attractive.<br /><br />Considering the Series 3, though, consumers are screwed, as you can't build your own HD recorder with CableCard support!! With all the new pricing changes, it make building your own DVR look that much more attractive.

Considering the Series 3, though, consumers are screwed, as you can’t build your own HD recorder with CableCard support!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://thomashawk.com/2006/03/tivo-to-offer-subscription-only-pricing-model-hdtv-series-three-tivo-due-out-after-mid-year-and-lifetime-service-option-to-be-eliminated.html/comment-page-1#comment-15755 Anonymous Thu, 09 Mar 2006 09:37:00 +0000 http://clients.emmense.com/thomashawk/?p=2268#comment-15755 Will the Series 3 Tivo be able to receive DirecTV signals to do dual Tuner Action? Will the Series 3 Tivo be able to receive DirecTV signals to do dual Tuner Action?

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