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	<title>Comments on: The Next Step For Flickr, Stock Photography</title>
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		<title>By: Marianne</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-292318</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 18:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flickr is a great resource but there can be issues with releases and quality that you aren&#039;t as likely to come across if you use an established stock photography agency. We rate, review &amp; compare all the top stock photography &amp; stock footage agencies in addition to listing all the current promotions and offering a client review section for people to comment on individual stock agencies. www.whichstockagency.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flickr is a great resource but there can be issues with releases and quality that you aren&#8217;t as likely to come across if you use an established stock photography agency. We rate, review &amp; compare all the top stock photography &amp; stock footage agencies in addition to listing all the current promotions and offering a client review section for people to comment on individual stock agencies. <a href="http://www.whichstockagency.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whichstockagency.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Augustine</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19260</link>
		<dc:creator>Augustine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed ... Flickr is already the largest repository and using Flickr images for stock means you are getting original images unlikely to have ever been used by anyone else as stock images.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So we built www.FlickrCash.com - a multi-parameter search interface for image buyers to search through very large numbers of Flickr images, save searches, drag and drop into shareable lightboxes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://flickrcash.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.flickrcash.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a demo video is available at&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://youtube.com/watch?v=cfZnKZ2KbIk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FlickrCash demo video&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agreed &#8230; Flickr is already the largest repository and using Flickr images for stock means you are getting original images unlikely to have ever been used by anyone else as stock images.</p>
<p>So we built <a href="http://www.FlickrCash.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.FlickrCash.com</a> &#8211; a multi-parameter search interface for image buyers to search through very large numbers of Flickr images, save searches, drag and drop into shareable lightboxes.</p>
<p><a href="http://flickrcash.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickrcash.com</a></p>
<p>a demo video is available at<br /><a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=cfZnKZ2KbIk" rel="nofollow">FlickrCash demo video</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19261</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 15:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a professional photograper and make most of my income from producing stock photography. The problem with the model you are envisioning is quality control. Most of my agents require a 50 mb 8-bit file since they never know what the client may use the image for. Now I understand that not everyone would need such large fies and that iamges on the web are very small but there have to be some standards involved and the average guy at flickr has no clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a professional photograper and make most of my income from producing stock photography. The problem with the model you are envisioning is quality control. Most of my agents require a 50 mb 8-bit file since they never know what the client may use the image for. Now I understand that not everyone would need such large fies and that iamges on the web are very small but there have to be some standards involved and the average guy at flickr has no clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19262</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Apr 2006 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing stopping any photographer from posting images on Flikr or Digital Railroad or any other photo database system, then marketing their work to publications who can search and buy.  The main problem is getting publications to search your set of photos as opposed to other databases (like Corbis or Getty).  The reason they go to Corbis or Getty is because they can trust in the consistency of the quality of the photography and because these agencies offer a wide range of photographic subjects.  One-stop shopping.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It seems silly to write of Corbis or Getty like they are big evil giants preventing photographers from selling their work.  If you want to sell your work then join Corbis or Getty.  It&#039;s not that difficult to join if your photography is good enough.  Or join some other smaller (but still effective) agency like Redux or Polaris.  Or start your own agency and convince publications that you can provide a breadth of imagery with consistent high quality -- of course this is largely an issue of &quot;branding,&quot; and you&#039;re shooting yourself in the foot (from a marketing point of view) if you associate your high-quality photography with the rabble that clutters Flikr.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Your post has the tone of advocating for photographers in the shadow of these big corporate agencies.  Yet you argue for:&lt;br /&gt;1. lowering the price of image licensing&lt;br /&gt;2. promoting royalty free stock&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a photographer myself, I depend on licensing to make a living and do not wish to see standard pricing lowered.  And royalty free is the most evil of all evils in licensing because it limits future sales potential.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing stopping any photographer from posting images on Flikr or Digital Railroad or any other photo database system, then marketing their work to publications who can search and buy.  The main problem is getting publications to search your set of photos as opposed to other databases (like Corbis or Getty).  The reason they go to Corbis or Getty is because they can trust in the consistency of the quality of the photography and because these agencies offer a wide range of photographic subjects.  One-stop shopping.</p>
<p>It seems silly to write of Corbis or Getty like they are big evil giants preventing photographers from selling their work.  If you want to sell your work then join Corbis or Getty.  It&#8217;s not that difficult to join if your photography is good enough.  Or join some other smaller (but still effective) agency like Redux or Polaris.  Or start your own agency and convince publications that you can provide a breadth of imagery with consistent high quality &#8212; of course this is largely an issue of &#8220;branding,&#8221; and you&#8217;re shooting yourself in the foot (from a marketing point of view) if you associate your high-quality photography with the rabble that clutters Flikr.</p>
<p>Your post has the tone of advocating for photographers in the shadow of these big corporate agencies.  Yet you argue for:<br />1. lowering the price of image licensing<br />2. promoting royalty free stock</p>
<p>As a photographer myself, I depend on licensing to make a living and do not wish to see standard pricing lowered.  And royalty free is the most evil of all evils in licensing because it limits future sales potential.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19263</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only issue would be the inconsistency of the images on Flickr.  While certainly many are excellent, many are complete crap.  Stock companies are very consistent.  If you want a picture of a dog with a boy, there are 1000 good ones (by good ones, I mean flawless execution, perfect).  Flickr on the other hand, may have 2 or 3 really good ones (publishable), a few dozen okay ones, with the rest being crap.  It seems that most of the amateurs who post on Flickr believe that their photos are &quot;pro-like,&quot; but in reality, they are not.  It reminds me of the whole indie rock phenomenom, where these mediocre artists suddenly had the technology to record and release their own albums at minimal cost.  As a result, the market has been flooded with album after album of crap.  Could this be happening with photography?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only issue would be the inconsistency of the images on Flickr.  While certainly many are excellent, many are complete crap.  Stock companies are very consistent.  If you want a picture of a dog with a boy, there are 1000 good ones (by good ones, I mean flawless execution, perfect).  Flickr on the other hand, may have 2 or 3 really good ones (publishable), a few dozen okay ones, with the rest being crap.  It seems that most of the amateurs who post on Flickr believe that their photos are &#8220;pro-like,&#8221; but in reality, they are not.  It reminds me of the whole indie rock phenomenom, where these mediocre artists suddenly had the technology to record and release their own albums at minimal cost.  As a result, the market has been flooded with album after album of crap.  Could this be happening with photography?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Morawek</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19264</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Morawek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flickr Stock Photos? I would be the first to join in. I&#039;ve got some experiences with a lot of picture agency but many of them just don&#039;t reach out to a great market. flickr is fresh and flickr is hype. So why shouldn&#039;t that work...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C U @&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://netridersdetections.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Net Rider&#039;s Blog&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flickr Stock Photos? I would be the first to join in. I&#8217;ve got some experiences with a lot of picture agency but many of them just don&#8217;t reach out to a great market. flickr is fresh and flickr is hype. So why shouldn&#8217;t that work&#8230;</p>
<p>C U @<br /><a href="http://netridersdetections.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Net Rider&#8217;s Blog</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19265</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Thomas, this is, in a way, old news.  For at least a year, small photo agencies, dubbed &quot;microstocks&quot; by the trade, have offered their royalty-free wares.  Typically purchased for about $3 (yes, that&#039;s three dollars), buyers can use the images as many times as they want for whatever they want.  Of course libel, copyright, and private property laws still apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Thomas, this is, in a way, old news.  For at least a year, small photo agencies, dubbed &#8220;microstocks&#8221; by the trade, have offered their royalty-free wares.  Typically purchased for about $3 (yes, that&#8217;s three dollars), buyers can use the images as many times as they want for whatever they want.  Of course libel, copyright, and private property laws still apply.</p>
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		<title>By: NoLimits</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19266</link>
		<dc:creator>NoLimits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2005 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not?? I recently started publishing a photoblog on Flickr and have been humbled by the depth of talent and creativity among us non-pro camera junkies.  How can the graphic arts industry overlook this motherlode of images??  There is every style and technique imaginable to access.  The internet is doing what it does best: bringing the world into the grasp of a large community of grassroots talent that in a different time (not so very long ago) would never feel the warm exhilaration of recognition outside of their friends and family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not?? I recently started publishing a photoblog on Flickr and have been humbled by the depth of talent and creativity among us non-pro camera junkies.  How can the graphic arts industry overlook this motherlode of images??  There is every style and technique imaginable to access.  The internet is doing what it does best: bringing the world into the grasp of a large community of grassroots talent that in a different time (not so very long ago) would never feel the warm exhilaration of recognition outside of their friends and family.</p>
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		<title>By: George Hotelling</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19267</link>
		<dc:creator>George Hotelling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seems to be getting more and more common, it just popped up &lt;a href=&quot;http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/22724&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;on Ask MetaFilter&lt;/a&gt; again too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seems to be getting more and more common, it just popped up <a href="http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/22724" rel="nofollow">on Ask MetaFilter</a> again too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/08/next-step-for-flickr-stock-photography.html/comment-page-1#comment-19268</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like a good idea. However, I think the rights/releases issue may be substantial. If you buy images through a conventional stock agency, aren&#039;t you paying in part for the certainty that the seller owns the rights? But perhaps, as you suggest, this issue is not difficult to resolve. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, your comments raise a broader question of whether stock-photo searching on the Web via Google and other search engines might become more widespread if photographers began tagging their personal-website photos more systematically, perhaps with a &quot;stockphoto&quot; tag (in addition to the appropriate attributes: &quot;bridge&quot;, &quot;sunset&quot;, etc.). OTOH, Flickr&#039;s community rating system might add enough value to make it a go-to place for stock photography. Flickr should try it and see how it flies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a good idea. However, I think the rights/releases issue may be substantial. If you buy images through a conventional stock agency, aren&#8217;t you paying in part for the certainty that the seller owns the rights? But perhaps, as you suggest, this issue is not difficult to resolve. </p>
<p>Also, your comments raise a broader question of whether stock-photo searching on the Web via Google and other search engines might become more widespread if photographers began tagging their personal-website photos more systematically, perhaps with a &#8220;stockphoto&#8221; tag (in addition to the appropriate attributes: &#8220;bridge&#8221;, &#8220;sunset&#8221;, etc.). OTOH, Flickr&#8217;s community rating system might add enough value to make it a go-to place for stock photography. Flickr should try it and see how it flies.</p>
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