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	<title>Comments on: Andrew Orlowski, Sloppy Journalist or Bold Faced Liar?</title>
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		<title>By: Brett Glass</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-160307</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see: and Andrew Orlowski is the only journalist who ever made a prediction that didn&#039;t pan out.

The fact is that Orlowski is consistently one of the most insightful, forward looking journalists in the tech industry. And he&#039;s made far fewer incorrect predictions than more popular ones, such as John C. Dvorak (whom I admire also, by the way).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see: and Andrew Orlowski is the only journalist who ever made a prediction that didn&#8217;t pan out.</p>
<p>The fact is that Orlowski is consistently one of the most insightful, forward looking journalists in the tech industry. And he&#8217;s made far fewer incorrect predictions than more popular ones, such as John C. Dvorak (whom I admire also, by the way).</p>
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		<title>By: Another Person</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-131473</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AnotherPerson says yes!</description>
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		<title>By: Person</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-129745</link>
		<dc:creator>Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is several years after the post but I would like to add that I found this by searching Andrew Orlowski&#039;s name (which is Andrew Orlowski) after thinking, &quot;The Register is mostly OK but who&#039;s this Andrew Orlowski pillock? I wonder if anyone else out there thinks he&#039;s a twat?&quot;

Normally if people were thinking that about a Register writer they would say so in the comments, but Andrew Orlowski disables comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is several years after the post but I would like to add that I found this by searching Andrew Orlowski&#8217;s name (which is Andrew Orlowski) after thinking, &#8220;The Register is mostly OK but who&#8217;s this Andrew Orlowski pillock? I wonder if anyone else out there thinks he&#8217;s a twat?&#8221;</p>
<p>Normally if people were thinking that about a Register writer they would say so in the comments, but Andrew Orlowski disables comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Liar</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-25017</link>
		<dc:creator>Liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 05:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term is bald-faced liar, okay. Bald.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term is bald-faced liar, okay. Bald.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-19354</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kuri: this was no mistake. It was a hatchet job. Orlowski has had plenty of chances to fix this article and give at minimum my side of the story. He hasn&#039;t done so and hasn&#039;t answered any of my emails or anyone else doing inquiries into this situation. The email was made up. It isn&#039;t what I wrote. I can&#039;t be clearer about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuri: this was no mistake. It was a hatchet job. Orlowski has had plenty of chances to fix this article and give at minimum my side of the story. He hasn&#8217;t done so and hasn&#8217;t answered any of my emails or anyone else doing inquiries into this situation. The email was made up. It isn&#8217;t what I wrote. I can&#8217;t be clearer about it.</p>
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		<title>By: kuri</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-19355</link>
		<dc:creator>kuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the delay in responding. My initial intention when commenting on this blog was to warn against hysteria. I did not have any particular axe to grind on the scoble orlowski tete a tete. I have no experience of dealing with Scoble and some experience of dealing with Orlowski as an uninterested second party.I just felt it was right to report the fact that Orlowski, while he may have made some mistakes in  reporting Scoble&#039;s post, was quite professional in my dealings with him   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to say that I have taken exception to the unwarranted attempts to question my integrity on the basis of my report of my experience and I am left with the impression of a rather dangerous (from the point of view of Microsoft) attempt to engender a bit of witch hunt on this issue. The fact that a Microsoft representative should be acting in this way in response to a really rather small but interesting publication is, to say the least, very surprising. It seems to me that it cannot do Microsoft any good to have such immature and unprofessional  representation. What has shone through the original post and Scoble&#039;s  subsequent direct comments is a lack of proper PR, legal or journalistic experience/professionalism/training. That is something that is going to cause very serious problems in the long run.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have to say I didn&#039;t fully understand Scoble&#039;s last comment. It seemed to imply my points were the same as Orlowski&#039;s alleged mistake (of which I have no first hand knowledge) and massively over simplify the issues I tried to point out with the nature of the very wide ranging allegations being made against Orlowski in both the original post, on which I tried to make a fairly limited contribution, and Scoble&#039;s subsequent anger and credibility questioning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the delay in responding. My initial intention when commenting on this blog was to warn against hysteria. I did not have any particular axe to grind on the scoble orlowski tete a tete. I have no experience of dealing with Scoble and some experience of dealing with Orlowski as an uninterested second party.I just felt it was right to report the fact that Orlowski, while he may have made some mistakes in  reporting Scoble&#8217;s post, was quite professional in my dealings with him   </p>
<p>I have to say that I have taken exception to the unwarranted attempts to question my integrity on the basis of my report of my experience and I am left with the impression of a rather dangerous (from the point of view of Microsoft) attempt to engender a bit of witch hunt on this issue. The fact that a Microsoft representative should be acting in this way in response to a really rather small but interesting publication is, to say the least, very surprising. It seems to me that it cannot do Microsoft any good to have such immature and unprofessional  representation. What has shone through the original post and Scoble&#8217;s  subsequent direct comments is a lack of proper PR, legal or journalistic experience/professionalism/training. That is something that is going to cause very serious problems in the long run.</p>
<p>I have to say I didn&#8217;t fully understand Scoble&#8217;s last comment. It seemed to imply my points were the same as Orlowski&#8217;s alleged mistake (of which I have no first hand knowledge) and massively over simplify the issues I tried to point out with the nature of the very wide ranging allegations being made against Orlowski in both the original post, on which I tried to make a fairly limited contribution, and Scoble&#8217;s subsequent anger and credibility questioning.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-19356</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; For someone who has a role as a representative of a major and respected company your comments are intemperate at best. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;When you have a liar and a libeler going after you I suggest that you too will be intemperate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do have strong proof: my own email.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I give my cell phone out on each blog. 425-205-1921. It&#039;s so you can call and check into the facts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, instead of reporting fairly on the facts you have called me intemperate. Well, damn straight I&#039;m intemperate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> For someone who has a role as a representative of a major and respected company your comments are intemperate at best. </p>
<p>When you have a liar and a libeler going after you I suggest that you too will be intemperate.</p>
<p>I do have strong proof: my own email.</p>
<p>I give my cell phone out on each blog. 425-205-1921. It&#8217;s so you can call and check into the facts.</p>
<p>But, instead of reporting fairly on the facts you have called me intemperate. Well, damn straight I&#8217;m intemperate!</p>
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		<title>By: kuri</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-19357</link>
		<dc:creator>kuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scoble, have you read yourself? For someone who has a role as a representative of a major and respected company your comments are intemperate at best. All I have done is report the truth of my experience of Orlowski and pointed out that the post on this blog was terribly written and legally dangerous. If you reread my post you would see that I have not commented on your complaint about Orlowski but on the subject matter of this post. If you reread again you will also see that I do not say that I do not care about my credibility and reputation but that I have thought carefully about what I have written and concluded that it is entirely responsible. Read again and you will find it is. I then suggest that you take stock of where you are in the credibility stakes because I don:t believe your ranting is helping you here. On the point about whether Orlowski has done something reprehensible in your case (about which I have not commented a great deal because I do not have the facts) I hope that you have the very strong evidence you clearly think you have. Again, as in the case of the media center case, you are making accusations about the man:s motivation and precise conduct that   require very very strong proof. Perhaps a mistake has been made or perhaps Orlowski himself was spoofed. If that is a case then your accusation is incredibly unwise and irresponsible. I don&#039;t know. I think you have access to the facts. I just ask one thing: could you cut the intemperate aggression towards a poster who has only reported his experience of someone he thought was professional in his experience (I explicitly said people had the right to make contrary reports) and also cautioned against some rather illsupported and intemperate attacks on the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scoble, have you read yourself? For someone who has a role as a representative of a major and respected company your comments are intemperate at best. All I have done is report the truth of my experience of Orlowski and pointed out that the post on this blog was terribly written and legally dangerous. If you reread my post you would see that I have not commented on your complaint about Orlowski but on the subject matter of this post. If you reread again you will also see that I do not say that I do not care about my credibility and reputation but that I have thought carefully about what I have written and concluded that it is entirely responsible. Read again and you will find it is. I then suggest that you take stock of where you are in the credibility stakes because I don:t believe your ranting is helping you here. On the point about whether Orlowski has done something reprehensible in your case (about which I have not commented a great deal because I do not have the facts) I hope that you have the very strong evidence you clearly think you have. Again, as in the case of the media center case, you are making accusations about the man:s motivation and precise conduct that   require very very strong proof. Perhaps a mistake has been made or perhaps Orlowski himself was spoofed. If that is a case then your accusation is incredibly unwise and irresponsible. I don&#8217;t know. I think you have access to the facts. I just ask one thing: could you cut the intemperate aggression towards a poster who has only reported his experience of someone he thought was professional in his experience (I explicitly said people had the right to make contrary reports) and also cautioned against some rather illsupported and intemperate attacks on the man.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-19358</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s more: http://evans.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/8/1/1097215.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s more: <a href="http://evans.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/8/1/1097215.html" rel="nofollow">http://evans.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/8/1/1097215.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2005/07/andrew-orlowski-sloppy-journalist-or.html/comment-page-1#comment-19359</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2005 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kuri: it&#039;s very easy for me to prove that Andrew is lying. I have the original email (and so does my IT department).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Want to go into a court of law?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&#039;re defending a liar -- and one that can be proven to be so. Hope that helps. Glad you don&#039;t care about your own reputation and/or credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kuri: it&#8217;s very easy for me to prove that Andrew is lying. I have the original email (and so does my IT department).</p>
<p>Want to go into a court of law?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re defending a liar &#8212; and one that can be proven to be so. Hope that helps. Glad you don&#8217;t care about your own reputation and/or credibility.</p>
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