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	<title>Comments on: Editorial:  On Camera Policies in Privately Owned Public Spaces</title>
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		<title>By: Stefania Marchizano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefania Marchizano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm it seems like your website ate my first comment (it was extremely long) so I guess I&#039;ll just sum it up what I wrote and say, I&#039;m thoroughly enjoying your blog. I as well am an aspiring blog writer but I&#039;m still new to everything. Do you have any points for novice blog writers? I&#039;d definitely appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm it seems like your website ate my first comment (it was extremely long) so I guess I&#8217;ll just sum it up what I wrote and say, I&#8217;m thoroughly enjoying your blog. I as well am an aspiring blog writer but I&#8217;m still new to everything. Do you have any points for novice blog writers? I&#8217;d definitely appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this post via Google -- I was recently asked not to take any more photos of the order counter at an In-N-Out Burger. The photo I did take is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshmt/2410010171/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;The employee initially claimed that the company doesn&#039;t allow photos of the &quot;menu board&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this post via Google &#8212; I was recently asked not to take any more photos of the order counter at an In-N-Out Burger. The photo I did take is <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/joshmt/2410010171/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br />The employee initially claimed that the company doesn&#8217;t allow photos of the &#8220;menu board&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hunter</title>
		<link>http://thomashawk.com/2004/08/editorial-on-camera-policies-in-privately-owned-public-spaces.html/comment-page-1#comment-20648</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NY MOMA: flashless photography allowed in all permanent collection galleries. The provincial me toos (hello, SF) should suck it up and follow NY MOMA&#039;s lead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NY MOMA: flashless photography allowed in all permanent collection galleries. The provincial me toos (hello, SF) should suck it up and follow NY MOMA&#8217;s lead.</p>
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		<title>By: siutou_amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>siutou_amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow~ Extensive article. I&#039;m also an avid photographer...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;ve got a nikon d70s, and I took it to a concert at Pacific Coliseum (The Killers) in Vancouver, BC. And had no problems getting in with it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A while later, I took the nikon to a small concert at the Commodore Ballroom in Vancouver too (The Futureheads) and I got to take pictures of the opening act, but right in the middle of it, I got asked to take my camera with the coats because &#039;professional cameras&#039; weren&#039;t allowed in. I tried telling them it was not technically professional, but a semi only! Besides, they didn&#039;t tell me anything at all when they saw me getting in... I was kinda pissed about it. Now I&#039;m just disappointed~~&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There&#039;s a Bjork concert coming, and I wonder if I will be able to take my nikon, or I will have to borrow a smaller camera from someone else... or if I will be able to use the camera. The concert will be held in Latin America...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow~ Extensive article. I&#8217;m also an avid photographer&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a nikon d70s, and I took it to a concert at Pacific Coliseum (The Killers) in Vancouver, BC. And had no problems getting in with it.</p>
<p>A while later, I took the nikon to a small concert at the Commodore Ballroom in Vancouver too (The Futureheads) and I got to take pictures of the opening act, but right in the middle of it, I got asked to take my camera with the coats because &#8216;professional cameras&#8217; weren&#8217;t allowed in. I tried telling them it was not technically professional, but a semi only! Besides, they didn&#8217;t tell me anything at all when they saw me getting in&#8230; I was kinda pissed about it. Now I&#8217;m just disappointed~~</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Bjork concert coming, and I wonder if I will be able to take my nikon, or I will have to borrow a smaller camera from someone else&#8230; or if I will be able to use the camera. The concert will be held in Latin America&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this is an old post but did anyone clarify if photography with a &quot;professional&quot; camera (whatever that means) is allowed or not at Oakland Arena at a Warriors game?  I have a Canon 20d with a grip and wanted to bring a lens or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is an old post but did anyone clarify if photography with a &#8220;professional&#8221; camera (whatever that means) is allowed or not at Oakland Arena at a Warriors game?  I have a Canon 20d with a grip and wanted to bring a lens or two.</p>
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		<title>By: John Sinton</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was trying to take a picture of myself inside a Shoppers Food Warehouse store here in Adelphi, Maryland.  I have a fiance in Vietnam, so I was trying to take pics to show her how wonderful the stores are in America, and the glories of &quot;freedom&quot;, etc.  I got the nasty treatment from a security guard who obviously needed more training.  I don&#039;t think they have any policy at all, other than being paranoid about somebody taking pics of their lousy produce or rancid meats.  The security guy said something about &quot;talking to me man to man&quot; and &quot;going around taking bulls**t pictures.&quot;  I think I&#039;m gonna move to Vietnam now, to be free.  Osama won beyond his wildest dreams, didn&#039;t he...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can see the Washington Metro (WAMTA) being paranoid because there has been numerous terrorist threats against it, but the service and policies still stink.  No-camera policies are what you do in oppressive totaltarian countries, not in the good ole USA.  America is a &quot;free&quot; country...? Think again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to take a picture of myself inside a Shoppers Food Warehouse store here in Adelphi, Maryland.  I have a fiance in Vietnam, so I was trying to take pics to show her how wonderful the stores are in America, and the glories of &#8220;freedom&#8221;, etc.  I got the nasty treatment from a security guard who obviously needed more training.  I don&#8217;t think they have any policy at all, other than being paranoid about somebody taking pics of their lousy produce or rancid meats.  The security guy said something about &#8220;talking to me man to man&#8221; and &#8220;going around taking bulls**t pictures.&#8221;  I think I&#8217;m gonna move to Vietnam now, to be free.  Osama won beyond his wildest dreams, didn&#8217;t he&#8230;</p>
<p>I can see the Washington Metro (WAMTA) being paranoid because there has been numerous terrorist threats against it, but the service and policies still stink.  No-camera policies are what you do in oppressive totaltarian countries, not in the good ole USA.  America is a &#8220;free&#8221; country&#8230;? Think again!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Grand Coulee Dam (Washington) internals are off limits for cameras... no cameras of any kind are allowed during the dam tour.  Camera restrictions weren&#039;t in place until the 9/11 thing, but they might not let anyone photograph the internals ever again.  It&#039;s very dumb... if someone wants to destroy the dam they can destroy it just as easily without a picture of the insides.  Oh well, that&#039;s life in a free country for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Grand Coulee Dam (Washington) internals are off limits for cameras&#8230; no cameras of any kind are allowed during the dam tour.  Camera restrictions weren&#8217;t in place until the 9/11 thing, but they might not let anyone photograph the internals ever again.  It&#8217;s very dumb&#8230; if someone wants to destroy the dam they can destroy it just as easily without a picture of the insides.  Oh well, that&#8217;s life in a free country for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can add the San Francisco Municipal Transit system to your list of bad folks.  Just a half hour ago I got yelled at by two Muni station agents for taking pictures &quot;of the platform&quot;.  Apparently it is a &quot;security violation&quot; whatever the hell that means.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was taking photos of the Jet Blue ads in the Embarcadero station, clearly pointing my camera at the ads themselves.  I even showed my pix to a couple of security guards who were on their break (and could not have cared less), but the station agents were particularly rabid about it.  They even came out of their little booths to yell at me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can add the San Francisco Municipal Transit system to your list of bad folks.  Just a half hour ago I got yelled at by two Muni station agents for taking pictures &#8220;of the platform&#8221;.  Apparently it is a &#8220;security violation&#8221; whatever the hell that means.</p>
<p>I was taking photos of the Jet Blue ads in the Embarcadero station, clearly pointing my camera at the ads themselves.  I even showed my pix to a couple of security guards who were on their break (and could not have cared less), but the station agents were particularly rabid about it.  They even came out of their little booths to yell at me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2004 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over here in New Jersey, just about all mass transit areas are off limits. I repeated get told by NJ Transit that I cannot take photographs. The nice ones tell me that I can obtain a 24 hour permit to photograph. As yet I have not tried that- as usually the reason for taking a shot at a station is a spur of the moment thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Being that I love taking long exposure night shots, I am continually trying to set up, shoot and get out ASAP, as ever since 9/11 everyone seems to be on edge. I can&#039;t possibly think of how many shots I have passed up because it may appear to be some sort of suspicious activity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Scott&lt;br /&gt;http://phototeria.diaryland.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over here in New Jersey, just about all mass transit areas are off limits. I repeated get told by NJ Transit that I cannot take photographs. The nice ones tell me that I can obtain a 24 hour permit to photograph. As yet I have not tried that- as usually the reason for taking a shot at a station is a spur of the moment thing.</p>
<p>Being that I love taking long exposure night shots, I am continually trying to set up, shoot and get out ASAP, as ever since 9/11 everyone seems to be on edge. I can&#8217;t possibly think of how many shots I have passed up because it may appear to be some sort of suspicious activity.</p>
<p>Scott<br /><a href="http://phototeria.diaryland.com" rel="nofollow">http://phototeria.diaryland.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2004 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that most no-camera policies are actually more for protection against litigation (frivolous or otherwise).&lt;br /&gt;If by any chance you happen to take a picture of an unsuspecting Starbuck employee that is mindlessly, say, scratching his nose while preparing a coffee, you could conceivably create an annoying situation for the store. Imagine if you took a picture of a coke spilled on the floor of IKEA that a screams &quot;slip and break your leg&quot; to an unscrupulous lawyer, or that you take a picture of any employee mishandling anything that could be construed as basis for litigation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think this explains a lot of semi-official (non-written) no-camera rules, although it still doesn&#039;t explain, for example,why I have been kicked out of the parking lot at Best Buy in Potrero Hill after snapping 4 shots of their storefront from a 1/4 mile away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that most no-camera policies are actually more for protection against litigation (frivolous or otherwise).<br />If by any chance you happen to take a picture of an unsuspecting Starbuck employee that is mindlessly, say, scratching his nose while preparing a coffee, you could conceivably create an annoying situation for the store. Imagine if you took a picture of a coke spilled on the floor of IKEA that a screams &#8220;slip and break your leg&#8221; to an unscrupulous lawyer, or that you take a picture of any employee mishandling anything that could be construed as basis for litigation.</p>
<p>I think this explains a lot of semi-official (non-written) no-camera rules, although it still doesn&#8217;t explain, for example,why I have been kicked out of the parking lot at Best Buy in Potrero Hill after snapping 4 shots of their storefront from a 1/4 mile away.</p>
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